A closer look at HIV AIDS reveals it as a Constantly Adulterated Sham
This is Positively Stunning information, and Dr Sam Bailey once again proves herself spectacular.
“Nobody has ever found AIDS in humans. That is why they resort to finding anti-bodies as evidence.” David Rasnick, PhD, UC Berkeley 9:30 into part 3.
MIT’s Dr Stephanie Seneff has noted that AIDS is caused by complications linked to insufficient Sulphur in the diet and body. “Poppers”, used by homosexuals to relax their anus muscles, are implicated in the reduction of sulfur. See: https://wp.toxi.com/2025/03/sulfur-deficient-disease/
Part 1
Yet just another nail in the coffin of me trusting scientists and the medical profession. Thank you Dr. Sam!!
Part 2
Part 3
Transcript Part 1
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recently there has been announcements of a highly virulent strain of hiv in europe and we've seen healthy experts
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such as prince harry advising us to all get tested but what on earth are they talking about
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the yin and yang of hiv was published by the perth group's dr valender turner and
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investigative journalist andrew mcintyre in 1999. two decades later the paper remains as
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relevant as when it was written the paper was produced in three parts and in this video i'm presenting part one
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supporters of the hiv causes aids hypothesis cannot back up their claims
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with scientific evidence yet they continue to reject alternative explanations and promote
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life-threatening drug treatments [Music]
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a theory is a good theory if it satisfies two requirements it must accurately describe a large class of
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observations on the basis of a model that contains only a few arbitrary elements and it must make definite
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predictions about the results of future observations dr stephen hawking the
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notion that hiv aids is infectious and sexually transmitted is based on a
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relationship between antibodies claimed specifically induced by a retrovirus hiv
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and particular diseases in certain risk groups however the hiv theory has been challenged for well over a decade in
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many scientific publications principally by peter duisberg from the usa and eleni
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papadopoulos eliopoulos and her colleagues in perth western australia failure of hiv aids to spread beyond the
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original risk groups and particularly to western heterosexuals especially non-drug-using prostitutes signals that
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the hiv theory of aids is in need of urgent reappraisal this has serious implications for both the way science
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has been conducted and for public health policy and planning the hiv theory has cost billions of dollars and locked in
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enormous amounts of energy and research by thousands of scientists worldwide so far it has yet to save a single life
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there is an urgent need to establish a truly independent and distinguished international committee
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to review the current theories and those that challenge them there needs to be a cooperative but urgent reassessment of
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aids a noble laureate stirs the waters in 1988 dr carrie mullis the 1993 nobel
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prize winner for chemistry was employed by the u.s national institutes for health to set up analyses for hiv
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testing when preparing his report he asked a virologist colleague for a reference that hiv is the probable cause
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of aids he was told he did not need one malice was surprised i disagreed it was
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totally remarkable to me that the individual who had discovered the cause of a deadly and as yet uncured disease
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would not be continually referenced in the scientific papers until that disease was cured and forgotten
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there had to be a published paper or perhaps several of them which taken together indicated that hiv was the
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probable cause of aids so the first line of that was hiv is the probable cause of
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aids i wrote that and then i said well i need a paper some kind of scientific paper to
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reference that statement because when you make a scientist a statement like that that's like a fact so
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you need to say here's how come i know that otherwise as mullis was forced to conclude the entire campaign against a
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disease increasingly regarded as the 20th century black death was based on a
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hypothesis whose origins no one could recall that defied both scientific and common
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sense a decade later malice was to write i finally understood why i was having so
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much trouble finding the references that linked hiv to aids there weren't any here's how come we
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know that hiv is the probable cause of aids there was nothing out there like that
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nothing indeed an interested non-specialist observer armed with a few contacts and a
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good library merely has to scratch the surface to realize that the hiv theory of aids begs many more questions than it
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answers the beginnings of aids
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the few years leading up to the aids era and the discovery of hiv are illuminating it was a time when a
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promiscuous minority of young liberated gay men in a few large american cities
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were increasingly developing previously uncommon diseases such as fatal forms of the malignancy caposi sarcoma and a
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fungal pneumonia known as pcp the debate about the role of promiscuity in defining urban gay maleness has been
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changed utterly and forever because now gay men are dying gay men like you and me at the time
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whilst it was reasonable to implicate an infectious microbe transmitted by rampant indiscriminate sexual practices
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and dispersed with needle sharing and drug taking the fact that immune suppression had multiple causes was also
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known in 1981. some considered the diseases resulted from multiple assaults to bodily functions caused by the many
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and varied diseases toxins and treatments that accompanied the gay and drug-taking lifestyle that had evolved
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during the late 1970s just how extensive these multiple assaults were was indicated by the english journalist
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neville hodgkinson documenting the range of infections of just one homosexual the
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late michael callan in his book aids the failure of contemporary science how a
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virus that never was deceived the world hodgkinson writes from 1973 when he came
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out as a homosexual to 1975 he only got mononucleosis and non-specific
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urethritis in 1975 he had his first bout of gonorrhea but from there it all began
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to snowball first came hepatitis a in 1976 then more nsu and gonorrhea in 1977
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amoebas and hepatitis b nsu and gonorrhea 1978 more amoebas my first
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case of shigella and more vd then in 1979 hepatitis a third time non-a non-b
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amoebas giardias a fischer and my first case of syphilis and of course more
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gonorrhea in 1980 the usual gonorrhea shigella twice and more amoebas
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added to that list were herpes simplex types one and two venereal warts salmonella chlamydia cytomegalovirus
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epstein-barr virus mononucleosis and finally cryptosporidiosis
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indeed an early us-cdc study confirmed that the first 100 men with aids had a
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median lifetime number of 1120 sexual partners as callan himself put it by 1981 i got
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some combination of venereal diseases each and every time i had sex
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promiscuity is a vague word which means different things to different people but until we develop a better vocabulary
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promiscuity remains the best word we have to describe the historically unique phenomenon of large numbers of urban gay
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men who have large numbers of different sexual partners in such commercialized settings as bath houses back rooms book
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stores balconies meat racks and tea rooms not surprisingly given the widespread belief of a causal
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relationship between immunity and the maintenance of health in 1981 the new disease became known as gay related
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immune deficiency grid
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the national center for disease control is reporting more cases of two rare and deadly diseases found in homosexual men
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there is no apparent explanation for the outbreak
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obviously this is an issue with great emotional fervor but how can we stay unemployable when people are dying every
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day from a disease the cdc has yet to name for crying out loud if the cdc won't
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name it at least demand the press stop calling it grid
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well unfortunately i have to take credit uh for coining the term grid
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which stood for gay related immune deficiency we were seeing a cluster of gay men who
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were suddenly critically ill of pneumocystis pneumonia which was the indicator disease of something new and
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reported our findings to the cdc in fact none of the diseases were new
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some were known to occur in drug addicts and hemophiliacs long before the aids era what was new was the exponentially
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escalating prevalence in gay men technology and virology
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with the beginning of the aids era a technique was developed to classify and
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count the different types of lymphocyte white blood cells it was noticed that some aids patients had diminished
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numbers of the so-called t4 helper cell subtype and despite lack of proof the
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cells were assumed to be dying at the behest of an agent selectively targeting them
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this became the hallmark of aids as well forming a measure of the amount of immune deficiency
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in turn this immune deficiency the aid and aids caused the diseases the s and
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aids that constitute the clinical syndrome the perceptions that t4 cells were dying
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and aids was infectious lead to the theory that aids is caused by a microbial organism
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aids is not a disease right a's is a whole lot of different things depends on what country you're in five years prior
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to the aids era a few laboratories around the world were drawing towards the end of a fruitless search to prove a
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viral cause for human cancers during the 1970s dr robert gallo the central figure
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as co-discoverer of the aids virus and his colleagues claimed to have discovered three human retroviruses
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in 1975 the first human retrovirus hl23v was proposed to cause human leukemia but
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by 1980 was considered an embarrassing mistake in fact not to have ever existed
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of the remaining two one was postulated to cause a specific the rare form of adult leukemia and the second remains
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orphaned without a disease what is significant is that the latter two retroviruses are said to exhibit a
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liking for t4 lymphocytes this lead donald francis gallo and
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others to propose that an existing or closely related retrovirus was the agent
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responsible for killing the t4 cells in aids patients when researchers actively sought and then discovered the same
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diseases in individuals who were not gay retroviruses as well as retrovirologists
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received renewed interest and grid became aids
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first proclamations in may 1983 professor luke montagne and
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his colleagues at the pasteur institute in paris published a paper in science
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entitled isolation of a t lymphotropic retrovirus from a patient at risk for
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acquired immune deficiency syndrome aids it is important to note that the first word in this paper isolation serves as a
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signal that the researchers are claiming proof for the existence of a new virus i
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really was excited because we knew it was a new type of virus not shown before in men
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and very likely to be the code of aids of course at that time we didn't have the full proof of what's because of aids
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in the interests of science on several occasions montagne sent samples of his
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tissue cultures to the gallo laboratory in america with the express understanding that these could be used
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for biomedical biological and molecular biological studies however montana did not claim to have
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proven his virus was the cause of aids and the french discovery lay on the table until may 1984 when gallo and
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popovic and their colleagues published four papers also in science on the 23rd of april 1984 at a washington press
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conference held two weeks before the papers were published margaret heckler secretary for health and human services
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announced that gallo and his co-workers had discovered the probable cause of aids and had developed a sensitive blood
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test to detect the virus in the body first the probable cause of aids has been
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found thirdly with discovery of both the virus and this new process we now have a blood test for aids with a
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blood test we can identify aids victims with essentially 100 certainty a curator
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vaccine was predicted within two years inexplicably causation was proclaimed
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merely by association and despite isolation of hiv and only 36 percent of
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gallo's 72 aids patients barely a third the frequency of isolation is no better
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today in 1985 the pasteur institute alleged that gallo had misappropriated
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their virus the ensuing conflict which eventually reached the u.s courts was settled by a
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negotiated agreement signed in 1987 by gallo and montagne as co-discoverers
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and u.s president reagan and french premier shirak nevertheless the mata drew the attention
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of john cruzden an investigative journalist and u.s senator john dingle
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in november 1989 cruised and published a lengthy article in the chicago tribune
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newspaper which provoked an internal nih inquiry into suspect data from gallows
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laboratory a draft report of the formal investigation written by the nih office
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of scientific integrity was published in september 1991 in which the principal
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author mikolas popovic was accused of misconduct for misstatements and
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inaccuracies that appeared in the first science paper and suggesting that gallo
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as laboratory chief created and fostered conditions that give rise to falsified
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fabricated data in falsified reports the osi's final draft report completed
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in january 1992 was immediately criticized and was followed by a review
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of the osi report by the office of research integrity which found gallo guilty of scientific misconduct
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nonetheless even after this long investigation and its conclusion the u.s government withdrew its findings
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following gallows announcement of an appeal despite this in 1994 u.s officials
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credited montanier and his colleagues as the discoverers of hiv and yielded the french a greater share of royalties from
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the hiv antibody tests in taking these unprecedented steps dr harold varmus the
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director of the nih acknowledged that scientists at the nih used a virus
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provided to them by institut pasteur to invent the american test kit this action scarcely vindicated the
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dingle report which had concluded that the settlement barely managed to paper over the glaring unresolved issues
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rather it was the culmination of a cover-up where political and international reputational imperatives
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at hhs assumed preeminence over scientific integrity while defending
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gallows claim became tantamount to defending the u.s government itself
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according to aleopolis and her colleagues regardless of the material uncovered by the osi gallo's data which
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still remains the best of its kind does not prove the existence of hiv and even
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if it did nowhere in the papers is there proof that hiv causes aids
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enter peter duesberg in december 1987 three and a half years
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after the washington press conference professor peter duesberg virologist and
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molecular biologist at the university of california berkeley published an invited paper entitled
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retroviruses as pathogens expectations and reality duesberg was a much fitted
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scientist considered to be the golden boy of virology and the greatest living retrovirologist he had developed many of
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the laboratory techniques for studying retroviruses and their genetic makeup had discovered cancer-causing genes and
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was recipient of a 350 000 outstanding investigator award from the
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nih but duesberg dropped a bombshell he asserted that apart from the relatively
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few cancer-causing retroviruses the majority are virtually harmless i
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concluded that retroviruses play a negligible role in cancer in general
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and based on the evidence available at me to me at the time no holding aids
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dues book argued that hiv is neutralized by antibodies shortly after infection
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and thus antibodies signal its containment he also pointed to data proving that
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well sick or dying from aids hiv-positive individuals contain insufficient amounts of hiv to do harm
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even if hiv were to kill all the t4 cells it had infected every one to two
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days the number of t4 cells needing replacement approximated the amount of blood shed by
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a man cutting himself shaving for the protagonists the low viral burden that
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is the amount of hiv dna in cells was the fact that no one not even gallo
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could satisfactorily reconcile with an immunity destroying pathogen killing gay men within a year or two of diagnosis
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however rather than addressing this as a scientific problem warranting dialogue with someone known to have considerable
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knowledge of the subject duesberg's questions antagonised gallo to the point where he refused to discuss
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the matter he was a very respected virologist at one time and went off on this i think probably
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anti-gallo thing which is easy to do because bob gallo is a
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difficult person and peter was a good scientist and bob being very bright scientist but it was just
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it was in some ways just as crazy as peter but in his own self-serving way but peter just went off
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the deep end scientifically meetings convened to deal with the uncomfortable implications of duesberg's
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paper was suddenly cancelled at the highest level in 1989 duesberg presented further
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argument hiv does not fulfill the postulates that 19th century bacteriologist robert [ __ ]
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had developed to prove a microbe causes a disease these four postulates are a the organism
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must be present in all cases of the disease b it must be grown and then isolated in
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pure culture from the cells of individuals with the disease c it must reproduce the disease when
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introduced into a susceptible host or experimental animals d from where it must once again be recovered i don't see
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it that hiv proves the first and certainly not the third of course
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postulates which is the most critical one that when injected or infected you get the disease according to duesberg
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from every angle hiv fails cock's first postulate the second postulate was
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fulfilled but only by subjecting cells to drastic chemical manipulation that did not approach conditions in vivo
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the third postulate failed because as deus berg points out during the past decade more than 400 000 aids patients
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have been treated and investigated by a system of 5 million medical workers and
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aids researchers none of whom has been vaccinated against hiv but 10 years later there is not even
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one case in the scientific literature of a health worker who ever contracted presumably infectious aids from a
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patient aids is not infectious similarly nine years after the nih first
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started infecting chimpanzees with hiv over 150 so far at a cost of 40 000 to
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50 000 a piece all are still healthy in 1992 duesberg shifted focus from hiv
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to argue that aids is acquired by drug consumption and other non-contagious risk factors
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apart from illicit and recreational drugs duesberg's list included the first
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antiretroviral drug zydovoodine azt in other words a specific treatment for hiv
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infection was postulated to be a cause of aids duesbird continued to regard hiv as bona
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fide but as an inert harmless passenger virus linked to aids only through the kinds of activity associated with drug
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taking including taking of prescribed drugs duesberg like others before him pointed
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to the epidemiological data revealing a 50-fold difference in the aids attack
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rate between various groups of hiv-positive individuals as well as the proclivity of certain aids diseases for
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particular risk groups thus fifty percent of hiv-positive blood transfusion recipients develop aids
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within one year but so do fifty percent of hiv negatives compared to one percent
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of hemophiliacs caposi sarcoma was for all intents and purposes confined to gay men thus even
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if hiv were necessary to cause aids it could not be the only factor it was possible to argue that hiv may be
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only a minor factor or at least in the minds of eleopolis and duesberg not a factor
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apparently the role of hiv was also a problem for montagne although he wrote in nature in december 1984 that all
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available data are consistent with the virus being the causative agent of aids in 1985 he expressed an opinion
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impossible to reconcile with the hiv theory this syndrome occurs in a minority of infected persons who
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generally have in common a past of antigenic stimulation and of immune depression before hiv infection that is
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cause after effect one must surmise that within a year the discovery of hiv was
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already hedging his bets his recent interview with the investigative journalist jamal tahi
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fuels such speculation allopolis and the perth group
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we do not say that hiv doesn't exist what we say is that the presently available data
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does not prove the existence of hiv the biggest problem with the hiv theory
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of aids is hiv eleni papadopoulos alliopolis's aids research began in 1981. in may 1986 she
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submitted for publication a paper which refuted every step in the hiv theory including hiv itself she also proposed
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an alternative non-viral theory of which deus berg's drugs aids hypothesis is a subset and predicated non-toxic and
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relatively inexpensive treatments her theory was based on a general theory of cellular functioning which she had
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formulated in the 1970s as a basis for unraveling the genesis and improving the
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treatment of cancer and to offer fresh insights into the pathogenesis of cardiovascular diseases and aging
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alliopolis postulates that normal cellular functioning is determined by the level and oscillations of cellular
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redox oxidation and its chemical opposite reduction in her view when
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oxidation is prolonged or excessive cells become abnormal injured and susceptible to diseases aleopolis had
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noticed a link between the risk groups gay men drug users and hemophiliacs are
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exposed to chemical stressors in the form of semen nitrites illicit drugs and
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factor 8 the blood clotting protein missing from and administered to hemophiliacs
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there is abundant evidence that these substances are potent cellular oxidants
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in aleopolis's view oxidative stress produces low numbers of t4 cells and aids as well as the phenomena and food
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as proof for the existence of hiv the ready acceptance of the montane gallo 1993-1984
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science papers posed enormous difficulties for eliopoulos in having her work published thus reappraisal of
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aids is the oxidation caused by the risk factors the primary cause was twice
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rejected by nature eventually finding light of day and medical hypotheses 12
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months after duesberg however the editor of this journal had also rejected the paper only recanting after aleopolis
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worked for several months to convince him that equatorial africa was not in the grip of an epidemic of sexually
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transmitted immunodeficiency and thus not in breach of her theory whole nations have been led to believe
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that in some instances that they've got large percentages of their population infected and doomed because of this
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sexually transmitted supposed sexually transmitted virus is such a tragedy
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to paraphrase the theoretical physicist stephen hawking wrong predictions affirm bad theories
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correct predictions make them powerful the hiv theory requires that hiv causes
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all the aids defining diseases and predicts that hiv aids will become a global epidemic via the oldest and most
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unstoppable of all human activities however caposi sarcoma one of the two diseases for which the hiv theory was
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proposed is no longer attributed either directly or indirectly via aid to hiv in
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the oecd countries the prediction of a sexual pandemic has failed completely
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for example as of the beginning of 1998 93 of the cumulative debts from aids in
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australia occurred in the original risk groups that is gay bisexual men drug
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addicts and hemophiliacs this observation fits the classic demographic profile of non-infectious diseases such
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as pellagra berry beriberi and scurvy which characteristically remain confined
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to their risk groups all are caused by vitamin deficiencies but in the past were regarded as
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infectious and sufferers were shunned and quarantined the hiv protagonists
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also predicted a curative vaccine by the end of 1986 and an animal model to prove
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the hiv theory beyond or doubt neither prediction has been fulfilled a vaccine is not envisaged until well into
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the next century possibly around 2010 and animals given hiv do not develop
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aids on the other hand the aleopolous oxidative stress theory predicts the current demographic data and apparent
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loss of t4 cells the risk from passive anal intercourse in both sexes hiv
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positive and aids patients being oxidized relative to normal individuals
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the amelioration of hiv aids by the use of antioxidants and a non-infectious
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animal model every one of those predictions has materialized oxidative stress is well
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established by hundreds of papers so much so that in the early 1990s the
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pasteur institute was advertising international scholarships for study into the phenomenon in fact last year
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luke montagne became the principal editor of a 558-page book devoted to
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oxidative stress and cancer aging and aids the alliopolis theory predicts that a
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decline in t4 cells can occur without cellular death in fact according to the perth group there is no evidence to
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support the notion that t4 cells are dead or that hiv kills such cells in t4
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cell cultures the same number of t4 cells disappear regardless of whether one adds hiv or
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merely the chemical stimulants obligatory to grow the hiv neither is there proof that low numbers of t4 cells
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are either necessary or sufficient to produce a clinical syndrome this is a view recently expressed by leading hiv
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aids scientists such as dr arthur anderson from the us army medical research institute of infectious disease
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and doctors via grossman at the university of tel aviv in other words the central tenet of the
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hiv theory virus-induced killing of immune cells leading to aids is now
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being questioned by hiv aids experts themselves nonetheless and despite so much evidence
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to the contrary the orthodox view remains entrenched in fact since 1993
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the low number of t4 cells has been enshrined in the 1993 cdc aids
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definition whereby aids can be diagnosed without a disease just as co-factors were proposed to
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rescue the hiv theory in the mid-1980s in july 1998 chen and colleagues from
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the ucla aids institute school of medicine los angeles reported evidence that naturally non-infectious virus or
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virus rendered defective by anti-hiv drugs could still contribute to the loss
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of t4 cells throughout the cause of hiv disease in other words alive or dead hiv causes
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immune deficiency such a proposal does not auger well for the use or continued
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development of anti-hiv drugs consistent also with the aleopolis oxidative stress
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theory mice repeatedly injected with foreign cellular proteins develop a dramatic depletion of t4 cells and
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kaposi sarcoma-like tumors and abundant retrovirus-like particles appear in their spleens
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thus aids diseases are followed by the production of retrovirus-like particles
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and not the other way around to the uninitiated this may seem perplexing but it is well recognised
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that retroviral particles appear de novo in cell cultures not previously infected
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because all cells contain retroviral information carried in the germline dna
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indeed according to distinguished retrovirologists such as weiss and temen
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new retroviral dna arises by rearrangement of cellular dna caused by
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many factors including pathological processes a view that concedes retroviruses as an effect and not the
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cause of diseases the rise and fall of anti-hiv
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drugs it would take a second article to discuss azt and the many other anti-hiv
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drugs suffice it to say there is no scientific proof that such drugs kill hiv or cure aids but there is ample
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evidence they are harmful in 1994 a double-blind randomized comparison of two policies of azt
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treatment immediate and deferred was reported the concord trial this involved
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1749 symptom-free hiv-infected individuals from centers in the uk ireland and france the 347 clinical
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endpoints aids and death outnumbered the total of those and all other published trials and symptom-free and early
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symptomatic infection the results showed there was no statistically significant difference in
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clinical outcome between the two therapeutic policies in 1995 extended results of concord
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showed a significant increased risk of death among the patients treated early however despite these data despite
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disclaimers that patients treated with azt may continue to develop the aid diseases that the side effects of azt
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may mimic aids and that azt given to non-hiv-infected babies causes the
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aids-defining pneumonia pcp azt continues to be the most commonly
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prescribed anti-hiv drug dr donald abrams professor of medicine and director of the aids program at san
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francisco general hospital said i have a large population of people who have chosen not to take any antiretrovirals
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i've been following them since the very beginning they've watched all of their friends go on the antiviral bandwagon
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and die i have patients tested in 1985
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they were all advised to take treatment but they declined the treatment for
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different reasons because they didn't want to take toxic drugs because they
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were feeling well at that time and how are they doing today they're still living healthy yeah
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indeed even an elementary study of the pharmacological literature reveals that azt
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cannot be an anti-hiv drug it is toxic to all cells in fact what unites
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long-term survivors of aids is their resolve not to take antiretrovirals in
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mid 1996 the latest drugs the protease inhibitors were introduced these are
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prescribed as one of up to 250 possible combinations of cocktails with azt or
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similar drugs is highly active antiretroviral therapy detailed data on these drugs of the kind
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usually reserved for medical practitioners appear regularly in glossy multi-page advertisements and gay men's
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magazines in 96 david toe announced highly active antiretroviral therapy
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at the july 1996 11th international aids conference time magazine man of the year
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david ho predicted that scientists would find new drugs to wipe hiv out of the body within
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three years possibly within just one at the july 1998 12th aids conference
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hoes stated it would take at least 10 years of intense combination drug therapy to kill off all the hiv in an
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infected person's body but that a sizeable percentage of hiv patients will never get close
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many patients cannot tolerate the untoward effects of these cocktails and measurements show that the dna viral
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burden does not decrease significantly according to kaufmanital 49 of people
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taking haart who were followed by the swiss hiv cohort study did not have
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viral suppression and similar data are emerging from other centres in the may 1998 proceedings of the
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national academy of sciences dr william paul former director of the national institutes of health office of aids
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research wrote no matter how long a person is treated with anti-hiv drugs there will always be
35:04
new viruses you will have to be treated forever no one is getting cured
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this bodes extremely poorly for combination therapy as something curative
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dr michael sagg at the university of alabama birmingham usa is responsible for the treatment of over a thousand
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aids patients his treatment is state of the art and his clinic is sought after by
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pharmaceutical companies to conduct trials on their newest compounds in a recent interview dr sarg said
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perhaps the biggest difference between the cure paradigm and whatever paradigm we're in now is we now should expect
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failure with whatever hait cocktails we first use we should plan on it we should
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prepare for it clinicians should expect failure sag warns the hart dam is already
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leaking and there's high danger of it collapsing altogether failures are occurring right and left
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speaking about his dying patients they aren't dying of traditionally defined aids illness i don't know what they're
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dying of but they are dying they're just wasting and dying it is sobering while
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we are making good guesses they are just guesses we don't know what we are doing given the toxicity of these drugs it is
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unlikely anyone can tolerate taking them for more than a few years if this outlook is gloomy for hiv aids
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sufferers it is even worse considering there is no substantial alternative therapeutic strategy anywhere on the
36:37
horizon the treatment causes a very similar condition we would expect from
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an aids patient that's why nobody noticed that there was something wrong
36:47
with the treatment that's the very reason why everybody believe hiv is a deadly virus because
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the hiv-positive patient at that time got a deadly treatment the futility of all anti-hiv drugs past
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present and future is best highlighted in a june 1998 interview by dr harold
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varmus noble laureate retrovirologist and director of the national institutes of health
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trying to rid the body of a virus whose genome is incorporated into the host genome may be impossible
37:20
the demise of scientific democracy aids is the best example of what's
37:26
really scary and alarming and dangerous about our culture right now which is that it's a culture of
37:33
of pr it's a public relations phenomenon the truth
37:40
doesn't matter what matters is the image the longevity of the hiv theory has been considerably
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boosted by the virtual refusal of editors of leading medical journals to publish any material which takes hiv to
37:55
task without these data and the stamp of approval engendered by such publication
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it is almost impossible for the debate to reach the ears of those who matter the most clinicians and their patients
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like generals directing wars the remoteness of editors begets an objectivity which while essential to
38:14
clear thinking militates against an appreciation of the profound responsibilities editors hold at the
38:20
bedside ultimately although the hiv theory is manifoldly problematic
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physicians patients relatives politicians journalists and the tax paying public a systematically denied
38:32
knowledge of its existence in substance not only is there a total absence
38:38
anywhere of a disinterested adjudicated debate but individuals whose only motivation is to contribute to solving a
38:44
disease claimed to afflict millions of people find themselves censored for example sir
38:51
john maddox former editor of the world's most prestigious science journal nature
38:57
denied duesberg the right of reply on issues he raised because his views give
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many infected people the belief that hiv infection is not in itself the calamity it is likely to prove
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yet in a recent edition of the same journal but in another context there is a claim that the voice of skeptics may
39:15
grow tiresome but the mainstream is in trouble if it cannot win a public debate with them
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officials at the berlin tenth international aids conference confiscated dutch aids analyst robert la
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hovind's press pass and threatened him with expulsion from germany for criminal
39:34
trespass because he placed copies of the dissident journal rethinking aids on an
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unauthorized table nature has repeatedly rejected every paper and letter submitted by aleopolis
39:48
and her colleagues since 1986 without providing a single scientific reason
39:53
and invariably citing space constraints in their journal not even the profound implications of
39:58
the tahi montagna interview are of any apparent concern to nature professor john caldor one of australia's foremost
40:06
established experts on aids admits that dissidents and disperse their cases with grains of fact however because of caldor
40:14
and colleague's strong instinct not to dignify the skeptic's arguments by attempting to refute them
40:20
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40:25
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Transcript Part 2
Intro
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[Music]
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the yin and yang of hiv by dr valenda turner and andrew mcintyre
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part two
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when put to the test conventional hiv aids theory is at odds with the clinical evidence is purified hiv no more than a
0:37
tangle of cellular debris that's when i first started saying they don't know nobody really knows this whole thing is
0:45
a big sham the real purpose of the scientific method is to make sure nature hasn't
0:51
misled you into thinking something you don't actually know one logical slip and an entire
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scientific edifice comes tumbling down one false deduction about the machine
1:03
and you can get hung up indefinitely robert persig zen and the art of motorcycle
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maintenance some scientific problems with the hiv theory
Theory vs Definition
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the theory versus the definition the central premise of the hiv theory of
1:20
aids is that there exists a unique retrovirus transmissible via blood and sexual secretions which induces specific
1:27
antibodies and kills t4 cells whose relative absence then causes the appearance of approximately 30 diseases
1:34
which constitute the clinical syndrome the theory however is rendered completely contradictory by the official
1:40
aids definition used clinically in australia an individual is diagnosed
1:45
as having aids if he or she fulfills the criteria set out in the latest 1993
1:51
revision of the us cdc surveillance case definition for aids other definitions in
1:56
use around the world make scientific comparisons almost impossible in africa
2:02
aids is diagnosed on symptoms and without blood tests since from 1985 the
2:07
centers for disease control accepts hiv is the cause of aids it should not be possible to diagnose aids by any means
2:14
inconsistent with the hiv theory however even a cursory reading of the 1993 definition reveals aids can be diagnosed
2:21
with caposi sarcoma which even gallow accepts is not caused by hiv in the absence of immune deficiency without
2:28
laboratory evidence of hiv infection and extraordinarily and the presence of
2:34
negative results for hiv infection sexual transmission
Sexual Transmission
2:40
if i were to have unprotected sex to somebody who was hiv positive how many acts would i have to engage in
2:46
before i got the virus just one i think one would be enough first act
2:51
one is enough hiv aids is claimed to be bi-directionally sexually transmitted
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data to support this claim are based not upon microbial isolation and contact tracing as is the orthodox practice for
3:04
proving diseases are infectious and sexually transmitted but on mostly retrospective studies of highly selected
3:10
groups of individuals including homosexual and bisexual men heterosexual men and women including prostitutes for
3:18
antibodies and blood which react with certain proteins deemed hiv specific included in these studies are
3:24
estimations of risk factors for the specific sexual practices of penile insertive vaginal anal receptive and
3:31
oral receptive intercourse homosexual meme
Bidirectional Transmission
3:37
so the gay community wanted this to be taken seriously so they were very pleased when a
3:43
a virus theory was put forward because it seemed it seemed as if that would be a way to democratize this illness in
3:50
1984 gallo and his colleagues showed that of eight different sexual acts a
3:55
positive hiv antibody test correlated only with receptive anal intercourse
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they also found that the more often a homosexual man had inserted anal intercourse the less likely he was to
4:07
become hiv positive this is incompatible with an infectious cause
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in 1986 gallo and his colleagues reported they found no evidence that
4:18
other forms of sexual activity contribute to the risk of hiv seroconversion in homosexual men in an
4:24
extensive review of 25 studies of homosexual men reported in 1994 by carceres and van greensfin the authors
4:32
concluded that no or no consistent risk of the acquisition of hiv-1 infection has been reported regarding insertive
4:38
intercourse in the west the largest and most judiciously conducted prospective
4:44
epidemiological studies such as the multi-center aids cohort study mac study
4:50
of 4954 gay men have proven beyond all reasonable doubt that in homosexual men
4:56
the only significant sexual act related to becoming hiv antibody positive is receptive anal intercourse thus in gay
5:03
men aids may be likened to the non-infectious condition pregnancy it is acquired by the passive partner but is
5:10
not transmitted to the active partner in the max study they have shown
5:17
the only sexual act directly related to the development
5:23
of the phenomenon which is called hiv end of eighth was passive anal
5:30
intercourse significantly the mac study also showed that once a homosexual man
5:35
becomes hiv positive progression to aids is further determined by the amount of
5:41
passive anal intercourse sustained after infection this is contrary to all that is known about infectious diseases
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infection not repeated infections cause disease indeed the royal australasian
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college of surgeons considers hiv positive surgeons to be quote infectious
5:59
and that they should not perform invasive procedures or operations but
6:04
they may provide these services to patients who have the same infection heterosexuals
heterosexuals
6:12
the largest and best conducted studies in heterosexuals including the european
6:17
study group showed that for women the only sexual practice leading to an increased risk of becoming hiv antibody
6:25
positive is anal intercourse the unidirectional transmission of hiv observed in oecd countries is supported
6:32
by nancy padian's 10-year study of heterosexual couples from 1986 to 1996
6:39
there were two parts to the study one cross-sectional the other perspective hiv then we recruited their sexual
6:45
partners and we looked at whether transmission in fact had occurred in the cross-sectional study the
6:52
constant per contact infectivity for male to female transmission was estimated to be
6:58
0.0009 the risk factors for the woman were 1
7:04
anal intercourse 2 having partners who acquired this infection through drug use
7:09
pedian says this means the woman may also be iv drug users 3 the presence of stds of the
7:16
hiv-negative male partners of 82 hiv-positive female cases
7:21
only two became hiv-positive but under circumstances that patient considered
7:26
ambiguous and the prospective study starting in 1990 175 hiv discordant couples were
7:34
followed for approximately 282 couple years at entry to the study one third
7:40
used condoms consistently and in the six months prior to their last follow-up visit 26 percent of couples consistently
7:47
failed to use condoms there were no zero conversions after entry including the 47
7:53
couples not using condoms consistently pedian runs a study it's a 10-year study
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with the world's most virulent terrifying sexually trained i mean this thing jumps excuse me off of penises
8:05
into vaginas miles away how many of them do you think after 10 years with the world's most terrifying
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virulent sexually transmitted disease came up positive not nobody based on the 2 and 86 men who
8:19
became hiv positive in the early study the risk to a non-infected male from his
8:25
hiv positive female partner was reported to be in the order of one in nine thousand per contact
8:31
from this statistic one can calculate that on average a male would need to have six thousand sexual contacts with
8:38
an infected female to achieve a 50 chance of becoming hiv positive if
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sexual intercourse were to commence at age 20 and average three times weekly this would occupy a lifetime
female prostitutes
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female prostitutes it's got to be heterosexually transmitted there's no proof that it's
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transmitted at all at that point so why not just say oh it's heterosexually transmitted too because that made it a
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play again the cdc needed one the cdc hadn't had a good plague since polio the notion that hiv is a virus which
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does not discriminate is also markedly inconsistent with the data obtained from
9:16
studies of female prostitutes even if by some unknown means a sexually transmitted infectious agent found its
9:23
way into the promiscuous portion of the gay male population in certain large cities in the united states in the late
9:28
1970s as is widely accepted and given the facts that prostitutes are
9:34
frequented by bisexual men and that at the very earliest safe sexual practices
9:39
date from 1985 one would have expected hiv aids to have spread rapidly through
9:46
prostitutes and thanks to the general community however the prevalence of quote hiv antibodies amongst prostitutes
9:53
is almost entirely confined to those who are drug users virtually all other prostitutes have not
9:58
been and are not becoming hiv positive in september 1985 56 non-intravenous
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drug-using prostitutes were tested in the rue saint denis the most notorious street in paris for
10:12
prostitution more than a thousand prostitutes work in this area these women aged 18 to 60 have sexual
10:20
intercourse 15 to 25 times daily and do not routinely use protection
10:26
none was positive in copenhagen 101 non-intravenous drug-using prostitutes a quarter of whom
10:33
suspected that up to one-fifth of their clients were homosexual or bisexual were tested during august to october and
10:40
1985. the median numbers of sexual encounters per week was 20 none was positive
10:46
in 1985 132 prostitutes and 55 non-prostitutes who attended a sydney
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std clinic were tested for hiv antibodies the average number of sexual partners
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clients and lovers and the previous month was 24.5 when an estimate was made to separate
11:05
clients and lovers the median number of sexual contacts per year rose from 175
11:10
to 450 the partners of only 14 prostitutes 11 used condoms at all and 49 of their
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partners used condoms and fewer than 20 of encounters no women were hiv positive
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the same australian clinic repeatedly tested an additional 491 prostitutes who
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attended between 1986 and 1988 of 231 out of the 491 prostitutes surveyed 19
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had bisexual non-paying partners and 21 had partners who injected drugs
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69 always used condoms for vaginal intercourse with paying clients
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but they were rarely used with non-paying partners condoms were rarely used by those
11:54
clients and or partners for the 18 percent of prostitutes practicing anal intercourse
11:59
no women were hiv positive at the time of this report a decade into
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the aids era the authors commented that there has been no documented case of a
12:11
female prostitute in australia becoming infected with hiv through sexual intercourse
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yet these investigators from the sydney sexual health centre concluded that there are still many women working as
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prostitutes in sydney who remain seriously at risk of hiv infection the heterosexual epidemic of certainty have
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materialised in australia for example in 1991 10 years after aids commenced
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researchers were able to write that no australian prostitutes had been infected through
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sexual intercourse none in spain of 519 non-intravenous
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drug-using prostitutes tested between may 1989 and december 1990 only 12 2.3 had a positive test which
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was only slightly higher than that reported five years ago in similar surveys
13:01
some prostitutes had as many as 600 partners a month and the development of a positive antibody test was directly
13:08
related to the practice of anal intercourse the authors also noted that a more striking and disappointing
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finding was the low proportion of prostitutes who use condoms at all times despite the several mass media aids
13:22
prevention campaigns that had been carried out in spain similar data from two scottish studies
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the 1993 european working group on hiv infection and female prostitute study
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and a 1994 report on 53 903 prostitutes working in the philippines and tested
13:39
between 1985 to 1992 confirmed that non-intravenous drug-using prostitutes
13:45
remain virtually devoid of hiv infection for example in the latter study only 72
13:51
women were found to be hiv positive in studies where there appears to be a high incidence of hiv amongst prostitutes
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there are uncertainties that defy explanation for example although hiv has been
14:04
present in the commercial sex work networks in the philippines and indonesia for almost as long as it has
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been in thailand in cambodia the prevalence of hiv in the former is 0.13
14:17
and 0.02 respectively and 18.8 and 40 in the
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latter if these are accurate data the discrepancy defies epidemiological
14:28
explanation and has indeed baffled the experts although the latter postulate
14:33
behavioral factors such as one's country's prostitutes and clients being considerably more or less sexually
14:40
active than another however one could also pose another question what are the quote hiv antibody tests
14:46
actually measuring be that as it may since 44 and 34
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of the cambodian quote hiv and aids case reports till of december 1997 are listed as unknown
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in gender and age respectively data collection at least by the world health organization in cambodia must be
15:06
regarded as problematic contradictions
nondrugusing prostitutes
15:12
in the vast scientific medical literature over hundred thousand journals published
15:17
so far on hiv aids we cannot find anywhere in this vast literature
15:23
the evidence that hiv causes aids that aids as a contagious disease or that it
15:29
even sexually transmitted why should hiv avoid non-drug-using
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prostitutes if female prostitutes who do not use drugs do not become hiv infected despite
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being seriously at risk of hiv infection what is the risk of infection to the majority of australian women who are
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neither drug users nor prostitutes according to data from the national centre in hiv epidemiology and clinical
15:55
research vanishingly little a 1989 study testing 10 217 blood
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samples of newborn babies found no babies and thus presumably no mothers hiv positive if such women remain
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non-infected how do their non-drug-using male heterosexual partners become infected with hiv
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according to simon wayne hobson a leading hiv expert from the pasteur institute a virus's job is to spread if
16:24
you don't spread you're dead the overwhelming evidence from studies both
16:29
in homosexual men and heterosexuals is that hiv aids is not bi-directionally
16:36
sexually transmitted aids is the best example of what's
16:41
really scary and alarming and dangerous about our culture right now which is that it's a culture of of pr
16:49
it's a public relations phenomenon in the whole history of medicine there
16:55
has never been such a phenomenon since microbes rely on person-to-person
17:00
spread for their survival it is impossible to claim from epidemiological data that hiv aids is an infectious
17:07
sexually transmitted disease indeed professor stuart brodie has argued that physicians ignore the actual
17:14
heterosexual data and instead promote the politically correct idea that everyone is at risk
17:20
ideological knowledge about aids is far more likely to filter through society than scientific knowledge
the HIV western blot
17:28
the hiv western blot the hiv western blot test consists of a
17:35
thin nitrocellulose strip in which our embedded proteins claim to be unique to
17:40
hiv each protein is labeled with a p followed by its molecular weight in
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thousands serum is added to the strip and if there are antibodies to a particular protein
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this band will light up the hiv western blot is not standardized and thus around the world different combinations of
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bands are considered positive hence a positive test in one country is not positive in another and african would
18:04
not be positive in australia a person from the mac study would not be positive anywhere in the world including
18:11
africa yet the hiv western blot is considered to be highly specific and is considered synonymous with hiv infection
HIV antibody tests
18:19
the diagnosis of hiv infection the hiv antibody tests
18:26
well hiv infection is diagnosed with uh rather now routine laboratory tests
18:32
which um uh for which the there are criteria for diagnosis
18:39
established by the manufacturer fda
18:44
there are two quote hiv antibody tests in common use the elisa and western blot
18:52
the elisa causes a colour change when a mixture of quote hiv proteins reacts
18:58
with antibodies and serum from a patient in the western blot the quote hiv
19:03
proteins are first separated along the length of a nitrocellulose strip this enables individual reactions to the 10
19:10
or so hiv proteins to be visualized as a series of darkened bands the western blot test is used to confirm repeatedly
19:18
positive elisa's because experts agree that the elisa overreacts that is it is
19:24
insufficiently specific since 92 there is no western blot
19:29
in in in in great britain because they saw it's a waste of money you know it's
19:35
the same principle prior to 1987 one hiv-specific
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western blot band was considered proof of hiv infection however since 15 to 25
19:46
percent of healthy no risk individuals have hiv-specific western blot bands it
19:52
became necessary to redefine a positive wisdom blot by adding extra and selecting particular bands otherwise at
Aids
19:59
least one in every seven people would be diagnosed as infected with hiv
20:05
on the other hand although aids in europe and the us began to decline in 1987
20:11
this trend was counted by the addition of more and more diseases and most recently near laboratory abnormalities
20:18
to each revision of the first 1982 cdc definition there's the saying that if if
20:24
you knew how sausages what sausages are made of most people would hesitate to sort of
20:30
eat them because they wouldn't like what's in it and if you knew how hiv aids numbers are cooked
20:37
uh or made up you would use them with extreme caution the net effect of these
20:43
changes was to maintain a correlation between hiv antibodies and aids amongst
20:49
the risk groups while the risk of an hiv aids diagnosis outside of these groups
20:54
remained slight this was further accentuated by avoiding testing outside the risk groups
21:00
however when such studies were performed amongst 89 547 anonymously tested blood specimens
21:07
from 26 u.s hospital patients meticulously chosen to be at no risk of
21:12
aids 0.7 to 21.7 of men and 00 to 7.8 percent
21:18
of women aged 25 to 44 years were found to be hiv western blot positive
21:24
when he came up with his first test he tested 30 percent of the american blood
21:29
donators so let's say the general population he tested them positive and the industry said no go home gallo we
21:37
won't buy your test because this is going to destroy our business in addition the us consortium for
21:43
retrovirus serology standardization reported that 10 percent of 1306
21:48
individuals at low risk for aids including specimens from blood donor centers had a positive hiv antibody test
21:55
by the most stringent u.s western blot criteria thus the correlation of quote
22:02
hiv antibodies with aids which experts accept as the only in vivo proof that
22:08
hiv causes aids is not a statistic related to the natural unbridled
22:13
activity of a virus but is instead a contrivance generated by mankind
22:19
not only does correlation never prove causation the artificiality of this particular correlation severely
22:26
compromises its scientific analysis that's not an epidemic the number of
22:32
cases reported went up epidemically you know exponentially because the number of tests that was done went up
22:38
exponentially how many doctors knew about hiv in 1983
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too how many knew about it in 1985 say 500. how many knew how many knew about
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it in 1986 40 000. so that's where the curve came from how
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many tests we've done one of the most bizarre aspects of the hiv aids theory
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is that different laboratories institutions and countries define different sets of western blot bands as
23:06
a positive test the global variation in interpretive criteria means that in
23:12
australia for example a positive test requires particular sets of four bands in the usa different sets of two or
23:19
three suffice which may or may not include the bands required in australia in africa only one designated set of two
23:27
is required put simply this means that the same person tested in three cities on the same day
23:33
may or may not be hiv infected if the diagnosis of hiv infection were a poker
23:38
game a flush would require five cards the same suit in one country but only
23:44
one or two elsewhere a virus cannot behave in this manner but according to the hiv test which is claimed to have a
23:51
specificity of 99.999 it does as incomprehensible as this appears
23:57
further difficulties remain for example an australian tested in australia with one or two hiv specific bands would not
24:04
be reported as hiv infected clearly however there must be a reason why an uninfected individual such as a healthy
24:11
blood donor or military recruit can possess even one hiv specific band
24:17
according to the experts these bands are caused by cross-reacting that is false
24:22
non-hiv antibodies which react with the hiv proteins thus it is axiomatic that
24:27
an antibody which reacts with a particular protein is not necessarily an antibody which the immune system has
24:33
generated specifically in response to that protein since a false positive looks like a true positive how can you
24:39
ever distinguish whether it's truly a positive or a negative well that's a great question
24:44
it's going to be very hard to determine a false positive the australian national
24:49
hiv reference laboratory nrl concedes that false reactivity may be to one or
24:56
more hiv protein bands and it's common twenty to twenty-five percent of anti-hiv negative blood donors will
25:03
exhibit one or more bands on a western blot however alliopoulos argues that if
25:09
non-hiv antibodies cause one or more protein bands then why are they not able to cause four or five or all ten on what
25:16
basis do experts assert which antibodies are false and which are true or how do
25:21
the same three bands caused by false non-hiv antibodies become true when
25:26
accompanied by one extra on what basis do experts assert that there are true hiv antibodies if the
25:34
australian traveler were to be tested in the usa where two or three bands are
25:39
sufficient to diagnose hiv infection are his antibodies false in australia but
25:45
true as his aeroplane touches down in los angeles in 1994 dr valenda turner
25:51
wrote the medical journal of australia seeking justification of both the australian criteria for a positive
25:58
western blot test and the global variability the response by dr elizabeth jacks of the nrl did not answer either
26:05
question and subsequently correspondents failed to pass the editorial staff at the same journal when the same questions
26:12
were later put via the offices of senator chris allison the first question was again unanswered and the widely
26:19
different criteria between australia and africa were justified on the basis that in africa comparatively false reactivity
26:27
is far less common than in australia so that interpretation criteria to define true positivity may be less strict
26:34
however no scientist can make such a claim without data because of the different criteria that apply in
26:41
different countries you can be considered you can test hiv positive in one country and be given an
26:48
aids diagnosis as a result of that whereas in another country you won't test hiv positive and you won't be given
26:54
an aids diagnosis it's ludicrous that you can be positive in one country and not positive in another
27:00
all antibody tests are subject to the vagaries of cross reactions and the only
27:06
way to calculate the incidences of true and false antibodies is to scrutinize
27:11
reactions against what the test is purportedly meant to measure that is against hiv itself nobody can
27:19
find free infectious hiv virus in a human being that is why
27:25
they have to resort to looking for antibodies to hiv in a person that is one of the biggest flaws in the hiv
27:32
hypothesis hiv isolation is the only gold standard by which the specificity
27:37
of the antibodies can be determined and this must be evaluated before the test is introduced into clinical practice
27:44
however despite the western blot test being in widespread use and a stalwart
27:49
of hiv testing these data have never been reported by the nrl or any other
27:55
laboratory even without such evidence since a the nrl concedes that cross-reacting
28:02
antibodies cause misleading reactions in the western blot and one quarter of healthy australians and b unlike
28:09
australians africans similar to the aids risk groups are exposed to a multitude of infectious agents producing myriad
28:17
antibodies false reactivity will be much higher in africa where the western bloc
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criteria should be the most stringent if quote hiv antibodies indeed prove
28:27
that one third of heterosexual adults in certain central and eastern african countries are infected with hiv
28:34
life in these countries must be one endless orgy in 1999 it was reported that 35 percent
28:41
of patients with primary biliary cirrhosis 39 of patients with other bilirubin disorders 29 of those with
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lupus 60 of patients with hepatitis b 35 with hepatitis c
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all non-hiv non-aids diseases have antibodies to the quote hiv p24 core
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protein until 1990 an unknown number of the
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4954 homosexual men in the mac study were diagnosed hiv infected on the basis
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of an antibody to the hiv specific p24 protein that is with one western blot
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band why do not all similar tests prove infection with hiv why are gay men with
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a single p24 band infected with a deadly virus while billary and liver disease
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patients with the same band are not why were the criteria for diagnosing hiv
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infection set less rigorously for homosexual men and africans and if hiv antibodies are
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specific and hiv infection is for life why do reformed drug addicts leading
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healthy lives lose their hiv antibodies and this time my results come back
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marked from the lab indeterminate i'm faced with the decision do i want to
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wait six weeks to test again or do it right away i opted for right away
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my results that time come back positive took it again came back negative
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i took it again positive what happens if you're positive on one
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criteria but negative on another manufacturer's criteria how do you decide who's infected and who's not
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um you you will use the less
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the most sensitive protein although all hiv experts accept
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cross-reactivity and hiv antibody testing in 1993 the new south wales department of health interpreted the
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discovery of quote hiv antibodies in four women as compelling evidence for
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transmission of hiv from a homosexual man during the course of minor office surgery in 1989 however there was no
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proof that the man was hiv infected at the time of surgery or that any of the
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four women were operated on after the man this report remains the only one of
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its kind in the world and it immediately led to the establishment of a special committee of the royal australasian
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college of surgeons which wrote to all college fellows inviting submissions
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upon the matter but rather than seizing upon the rarity of the event and following advice urging
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a formal scientific inquiry into whether quote hiv antibodies are caused by
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infection with a retrovirus the college accepted these data as proof of cross infection but concluded the mode of
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transmission is unknown these tests claim to be hiv tests i'm going to read from a section that's called it says
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limitations of the test the specificity of the reveal rapid hiv antibody test for blood specimens in low
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risk populations has not been evaluated they don't know
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in their terms even how well this test is going to work in people they
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don't want it to work in low risk we don't think you're at risk unlike hiv aids experts who claim the specificity
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of the hiv antibody test is 99.999 one manufacturer of hiv antibody test
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states in the package insert at present there is no recognized standard for establishing the presence
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or absence of hiv-1 antibody in human blood therefore sensitivity was computed
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on the clinical diagnosis of aids in specificity based on random healthy blood donors
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the latter were chosen as de facto non-hiv infected for the purposes of determining how many tests are false
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positives however by this reasoning since the majority of hiv positive
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individuals are healthy they cannot be infected thus the who predictions of a
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global pandemic are patently untrue if we were talking about reality the
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reality is that aids is over
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of HIV by Dr valenter Turner and Andrew McIntyre part three
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when put to the test conventional HIV AIDS theory is at odds with the clinical evidence is purified HIV no more than a
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tangle of cellular debris Discovery consists of saying what everyone is saying and thinking what
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nobody has thought if one goes through the all the HIV literature which exists today
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I think one will find it bold and incredible to still believe that there
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is proof for the existence of HIV when a particle looks like a retrovirus
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you have to isolate it then put it in another culture show that
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the cells in the secondary culture produce particle exactly like the
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particles from which they originated the two particles from the two cultures are exactly the same can be shown only by
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determining their constituent proteins in RNA so isolation is extremely
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important to prove that the particle is a retrovirus the diagnosis of HIV
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infection what proof is there for the existence of HIV
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scientific evidence for the existence of a retrovirus must be consistent with the definition of a retrovirus as a
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particular kind of replicating microscopic particle thus researchers must demonstrate the correct size shape
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and construction of particles that these particles have been purified and analyzed and contain RNA as well as an
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enzyme reverse transcriptase that makes DNA from RNA and that the particles are
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infectious that is when pure particles are introduced into fresh cell cultures identical progeny appear the latter
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necessitates a second round of purification and Analysis indeed although this method is entirely logical
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and was deemed essential at a meeting held at the Pasteur Institute in 1973 it
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has been ignored by all HIV researchers claimed to prove that he had a particles
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ahead proteins which are not present in any other retrovirus he purified the virus
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but he did not publish any electron
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micrographs of the purified material to prove you know you sin is believing
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and they claimed that they had purified material but there were no electron micrographs and it it is this is one of
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the conditions where barracy ancient kosher men put it in
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1973 you must have picture of the purified virus and show that the
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material contains nothing else but particles with the same physical
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characteristics but no such pictures were published although there are electron microscope
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photographs from unpurified cell cultures of particles purported to be HIV particles it was not until March
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1997 that electron micrographs of purified HIV were published yet such
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data is the first most essential step in attempts to prove particles are a virus
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and for subsequent extraction of constituents for analysis and use as diagnostic reagents these long-awaited
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micrographs reveal purified HIV to be a tangle of cellular debris scattered
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amongst this are scant particles which without evidence the authors claim are the HIV particles in which co-purify
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with a cellular material I'm absolutely dismayed to find out that for about 15
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years the essential control of electron microscopy was neglected completely
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neglected and it's only very recently about two years ago that two papers came out in which finally electron microscopy
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was used to verify the presence of virus particles in samples which were for all
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these 15 years regarded as pure virus and to migrate dismay these pictures
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were showing practically nothing else but cell debris close examination of
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these particles as well as other evidence in the papers show they are too large wrongly shaped have too high a
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mass and are devoid of knobs that HIV experts unanimously assert are
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absolutely essential for the HIV particle to cause infection it is from this material that HIV AIDS experts and
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biotechnology companies obtain proteins and RNA to use in tests to pronounce
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humans infected with a unique exogenous AIDS causing microbe on 17th of July
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1997 the French investigative television journalist Jamal tahi interviewed
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Professor Luke Montagne on camera at the Pasteur Institute in Paris Montana was
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asked why do the electron micrograph photographs published by you come from the culture and not the purification his
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reply was there was so little production of virus it was impossible to see what might be in a concentrate of the virus
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from the gradient there was not enough virus to do that of course one looked for it when looked for it in the tissues
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at the start likewise the biopsy we saw some particles but they did not have the
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morphology typical of retroviruses it was startling that Professor Montagne decided to acknowledge in his interview
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with Jamal tahi and continue that as far back as 1983 his team were not able to
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purify anything that you might call HIV despite what he turned a Roman effort question about the Gallow group Montana
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replied Gallo I don't know if he really purified I don't believe so
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this should have been both the beginning and the end of HIV retrovira's light particles are
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virtually ubiquitous and biological material including for example cell cultures and the majority if not all
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human placentas in fact the the third problem with the virus with the particle
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is that they use umbilical corded lymphocytes which originate from placenta in placenta it was known in the
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70s that the release virus-like particle and they have reversed on scriptase activity so find them in this culture is
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not proof that they originated from mountainous patient however as Gala confirms the majority of retrovirus life
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particles are not richer viruses because they do not replicate the HIV particle
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has been classified into two subfamilies and three Genera of retroviruses this is
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analogous to describing a new species of mammal as a human a gorilla and an
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orangutan besides the HIV particle cell cultures contain other particles of
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numerous morphologies whose origin and role are unknown a long and detailed
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study from Harvard revealed The Identical HIV particle in 18 out of 20
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90 of aids-related lymph node enlargements but also in 13 out of 15 88
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of non-aids related enlargements HIV experts claim to detect and even
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isolate HIV nearly by demonstrating reverse transcription in cultures
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however although a property of retroviruses reverse transcription is not as many HIV AIDS experts claim
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unique to retroviruses or even viruses well before the AIDS era Gallo himself
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showed that chemically stimulated normal lymphocytes possess this function the
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only way to say that the existence of reverse descriptase or the detection of the business activity proves the
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retrovirus was there is only if reverse transcription was specific to
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retroviruses which is not the case in fact there today nearly everybody
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accepts that reverse transcription or reverse transcription activity is
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non-specific to retroviruses the HIV proteins and antibodies
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although both Montagne and gallo have never published electron micrographs to prove the presence of retrovirocyte
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particles in their pure virus and Montagne now concedes there weren't any
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both groups and all others since claimed such material is pure HIV this claim is
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based on the fact that such material contains proteins which react with antibodies prison and AIDS patients
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however such reasoning is untenable imagine a scientist who mixes two solutions together obtains a precipitate
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and then proclaims the identity and source of several reactants one does not need a degree in chemistry to realize
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this is an impossibility nonetheless because cultures and antibodies derive from AIDS patients react together the
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proteins are declared to belong to HIV and the antibodies the HIV specific
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antibodies nobody can find free infectious HIV virus in a human being
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that is why they have to resort to looking for antibodies to HIV in a
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person that is one of the biggest flaws in the HIV hypothesis in fact Gallo
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admits that for him an antibody test is the quintessence of HIV isolation during
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an interview at the 1998 Geneva AIDS conference he admitted sometimes we had Western black puzzles where we couldn't
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isolate things so we got worried and felt that we're getting false positive sometimes so we added the rest of them
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it was an experimental tool in the end of it and for us it worked well because we could isolated actually in 1994
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Gallows false positive sometimes where antibodies and 88 of AIDS patients but
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virus isolated and 36 of AIDS patients Gallows solved the twin dilemmas of the
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missing virus and gross non-specificity of the HIV antibodies by making the
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wisdom blot antibody test an integral part of virus isolation however an
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antibody test is not isolation of a virus HIV proteins can only be defined
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by extracting them from particles purified and proven to be a unique retrovirus such material has never been
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shown to exist in such extraction never reported notwithstanding since the
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mid-1980s HIV researchers claim that a culture which reacts with a monoclonal antibody to one of the HIV proteins the
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p24 protein is proof of isolation of HIV since to isolate a virus is to obtain
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infectious particles separate from everything else it is particularly difficult to see how so many scientists
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persevere in referring to a chemical reaction in this manner now the word
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isolation means to obtain something or to place
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something apart or to obtain a substance separate from everything else
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apparently Montana by isolation did not mean this but something totally
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different the origin of the HIV proteins according to aliopolis and her
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colleagues all data presented to date are consistent with the HIV proteins
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being cellular using HIV antibodies as probes HIV proteins have been identified
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in the tissues of persistently HIV negative healthy individuals including in blood platelet in skin cells thymus
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tonsil and brain as a mark of the bewildering status of the HIV Theory while HIV proteins could not be found in
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the placentas of 75 hiv-positive pregnant women they could be found in
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the placentas of 25 healthy HIV negative women if there is such a thing as an eighth
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causing retrovirus then its unique body parts that is its proteins should only be found in hiv-positive individuals and
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individuals who have AIDS but this is not the case all the principal HIV proteins have been
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found in all manner of cells from healthy human beings who are HIV negative the HIV genome
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as is the case with HIV proteins the RNA purported to be the HIV genome has not
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been obtained from particles purified and proven infectious but from the conglomerate material described above
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molecular biologists have produced possibly more information about the HIV genome than any other object in the
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universe nonetheless there are no reports of even one individual possessing a complete full-length HIV
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genome and there is no agreement as to how many genes HIV possesses opinions
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have varied from 4 through to 8 9 or 10. human DNA and chimpanzee DNA differ by
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less than two percent but variation in the composition of the HOV genome measures between three percent and 40
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percent we have studied retroviruses but HIV in particular has never been clearly
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defined in terms of its genetic structure and its molecular structure and what I mean by that is that you can
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try to determine the genetic sequence of HIV from one person
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and compare it to another person or even different viruses in the same person's
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body and you'll find that there are huge variations in their genetic sequences and now we're starting to talk about
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different strains and mutations and all this stuff what that really means is that nobody's
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really sure exactly what HIV is what the exact genetic sequence is given that the DNA sequence
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determines the composition of a viruses proteins and the letter the physical biochemical and biological properties of
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a virus how is it possible for such variation to represent one and the same
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agent for example how is it possible that HIV can induce the same antibodies
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which can be recognized in a universal antibody test containing the identical
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proteins since as the molecular biologist juiceburg reminds us there is a range a small range in which you can
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mutate around without too much penalty but as soon as you exceed it you are gone and you are not HIV any longer or a
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human any longer then you are either dead or you are a monkey or what have you it is evident that whatever the HIV
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DNA genome represents it cannot be a virus
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if there exists certain RNA which is unique to a rich of rshiv then finding
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such RNA should prove infection however the concordance between antibody and
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genetic tests varies between 40 to 100 percent and HIV RNA can be found in
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individuals not infected with HIV and responding to the scientific dilemma the
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HIV experts have proclaimed that plasma viral load HIV RNA assays are designed
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for monitoring the effectiveness of antiretroviral therapies and for measuring the quantity of virus and
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patients with confirmed HIV infection not for the diagnosis of HIV infection
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their performance in patients who are not infected with HIV is unknown and
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their use leads to misdiagnosis of HIV infection one manufacturer of PCR states
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that the amplicore hiv-1 monitor test is not intended to be used as a screening
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test for HIV or as a diagnostic test to confirm reasons about having infection and he was using a caramelis PCR
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technique which is a multiplication technique not a quantification technique by the way and multiplying molecules
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into its millions and equal those molecules with the virus right absolutely ridiculous even more as those
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sequences he's going to multiply and equal them with the vows that's the viral load are present in everybody
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it's just a way to to save face for the whole AIDS industry because more and
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more people get aware that this could not be you know because inside the 18
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there are a lot of critical medical doctors but they saw such a lot of contradiction and it was discussed on
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conferences so there was high there was high noon for for a new metal and a new
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test where the pharmaceutical companies could could make a great business out of it these been the case the specificity
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of plasma viral load is unknown and it is difficult if not impossible to claim that HIV RNA is the unique constituent
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of a specific retrovirus how can one even consider using such tests to monitor or diagnose a supposedly deadly
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virus when the viral load obtained varies between zero and a million copies on the same sample depending on which
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technique or strain of HIV is involved lessons from the past
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the evidence for the existence of gallows first human retrovirus hl23v was
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much stronger than for HIV however in 1980 the antibodies to the
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hl23v proteins were shown to occur following a large variety of common
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non-infectious factors and in Far More Humans than could ever have developed leukemia
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thus from signifying that an infectious mode of transmission of leukemia remains a real possibility in humans and
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infection within oncovirus retrovirus may be extremely widespread the first
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human retrovirus abruptly disappeared from the annals of science at present no
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one not even Gallow believes it existed however had it not been for the efforts
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of the two research groups at the National Cancer Institute and Sloan kittering there was the distinct
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possibility that by now the world would be facing a pandemic of hl23v disease in
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the AIDS era experts recognize that antibodies to the hiv-specific proteins
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occur where there is no HIV and in many more individuals than will ever develop
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AIDS on what basis then does HIV still exist every single prediction of the HIV
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theory has failed the dissident case politics and public health policy
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it was first suggested that a retrovirus HIV was and I quote the probable cause
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of AIDS at a U.S government press conference in 1984. since then it's been
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generally accepted that aids is an infectious disease transmitted through blood and sex
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if however as these scientists maintain AIDS is not an infectious sexually transmitted disease then AIDS research
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has been wrongly directed for 15 years the failures of the past 15 years are
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fairly and squarely affixed to the five wantanee and Gallo 1983-1984 science papers that the titles
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of three of these papers contain the word isolation and yet no evidence was presented must stand as a memorial to
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the demise of editorial Integrity the dissident cases that HIV does not exist allopolis or if it does exist it does
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not cause AIDS aliopolis and duesberg ultimately imply there will be devastating outcomes in terms of
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scientific credibility including the failure of peer review the demise of reputations of many experts and
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non-experts the challenge to Citizens Trust and governmental scientific and medical leaders as well as an uncertain
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period for the medical provision as a whole weaving a just resolution through
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through this Maze of socio-medico legal Bedlam will require the utmost tenacity
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from political leaders perhaps there are already signs of quiet Beginnings with the Americans 1984
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Return of the discovery of HIV to the French followed by Montana's admissions
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in his 1997 interview exceptionalism
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over and above all the uncertainties surrounding the HIV aids debate AIDS
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science medicine must stand as the most remarkable case of exceptionalism in history the funding it attracts far
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outstrips that justified by its prevalence and economic impact for example over the past 17 years Australia
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has a cumulative total of 7766 AIDS cases including
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5575 deaths The Big Spenders are an order the United States France the
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United Kingdom Germany and Italy their combined annual HIV AIDS research budget
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amounts to U.S 1.8 billion for a cumulative total of 761 572 AIDS
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patients many of whom are dead of an additional US 20 million dollars spent by the European Union in 1994 to 1998
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most money goes to support travel and meeting costs rather than laboratory
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research there is a most urgent need to direct research funding funds should go
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to Laboratories working on other ideas totally independent from HIV and no
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longer restricted to Laboratories working on a hypothesis which has never been proven while thousands of dollars
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per patient are spent on HIV AIDS research only a few dollars are spent on
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heart disease cancer mental illness Suicide Prevention or Road trauma the
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funding Paradox reaches epidemic almost bicycle proportions in developing
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countries where Western AIDS workers spend their days dispensing advice and condoms to a population dying for want
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of pure water adequate sanitation and nutrition and antibacterial anti-tubercular and anti-malarial
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medicines an alert dying of poverty why have we done nothing for African people
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just like given clean water so they don't die in infancy of diarrheal disease and stuff like this all we care
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about is HIV AIDS well question well there's money in it there has to be you
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know other Dynamic working to lead public interest to the African situation and ignore
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Clean Water Sanitation malaria I mean things that kill people in 2000 the
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annual cost of anti-hiv drugs for one person is about U.S fifteen thousand
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dollars greater than the entire Health budget for many a third world village with 650 000 to 900 000 HIV positive
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patients in the US as of July 1996 it would take you as 10 billion dollars to
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pay for drugs alone without HIV AIDS patients and specialist AIDS units and
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their employees can rationally be absorbed into the existing infrastructure of clinics in hospitals
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the pursuit of expensive drugs designed to kill HIV will be irrelevant as will
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be the work of the legions of HIV researchers the same applies to AIDS councils the armies of AIDS Educators
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fundraisers volunteers and AIDS organizations and the USL own there are
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93 000 of the letter one for every four persons ever diagnosed with AIDS
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and picking up the torch as the campaign chairman of the American foundation for AIDS research use red nobody's dead
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they'll have red products we'll have red phones last year we raised over a million we were very happy and now it's grown immeasurably over the last year
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members of the public often notice the celebrities who have suddenly and
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inexplicably become experts on public health we have turned these kinds of
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stars into Authorities on things Way Beyond their own training and their own
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knowledge [Music] clear thinking Homo sapiens thinking man was not named
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in vain an honorable Society provides unfeated information and encourage its
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members to make rational choices epidemiology shows that the development of a positive HIV antibody test in AIDS
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is not so much related to a given sexual practice but rather to the frequency of passive anal intercourse in both men and
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women it follows that aids is not a disease of sexual orientation and as far
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as women are concerned it is prudent to note that in absolute terms innumerably more women than men engage in anal
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intercourse even so it is not the act itself but the very high frequency of the ACT which is pathogenic as serious
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as public reaction to an ill-conceived retrovirus may prove it will not be anywhere as serious as the legal
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backlash there are countless individuals alive who believe they are infected with a deadly microbe and many of them are
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currently treated with potentially toxic drugs with no proven benefit they avoid intimacy avoid having
25:33
children and sometimes avoid even casual contact with others it would take a flotilla of poet laureates to voice the
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collective pain and suffering engendered by such a mistake it would take an army of mathematically gifted lawyers to
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quantify in the nation's coffers to compensate those whose lives have been ruined by what Neville hodgkinson has
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called the greatest scientific blunder of the 20th century it wasn't a plot it
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wasn't a it wasn't even greed or anything like that it was a mistake in
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certain circumstances that happened but the failure has been that science failed
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to correct that error this is not to forget patients and relatives who have died at their own hands in 1987 former
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U.S senator Lawton Chiles of Florida told an AIDS Conference of a tragic case
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where 22 blood donors were informed they were HIV infected on the basis of an
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Elisa test seven donors then committed suicide in June 1998 the Swiss AIDS analyst
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Michael Baumgartner persuaded United Nations officials to include a dissident
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session at the 12th International AIDS Conference held in Geneva speakers
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include Hugh Christie editor of Continuum magazine AIDS and a list and documentary filmmaker Joan shinton
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epidemiologist Professor Gordon Stewart retrovirologist and electron microscopist Professor Etienne de Haven
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virologist Dr Stephan Linker and by satellite Eleni aliopoulos in her group from the Royal Perth hospital and the
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audience were observers from the Pasteur Institute and the U.S National Institutes for health the topic of the
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session was a scientific critique of the HIV antibody tests and the evidence for
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the existence of HIV at the official Press Conference held after the meeting Professor Bernard Herschel chairman of
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the organizing committee accused the speakers of using outdated and
27:32
untrustworthy scientific data her however it was this outdated data that
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of Montana and Gallo that led to the 1984 Proclamation that HIV is the cause
27:43
of AIDS that considered untrustworthy as the HIV expert's own data
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notwithstanding these and many other challenges to the current Dogma HIV AIDS experts are not in the least disquieted
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by skeptical patients relatives or scientists and invade heavily against inquisitive journalists alleging great
28:03
harm to Public Health thus it appears that the only hope for an immediate resolution of this troubled issue is to
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have lawyers appearing for plaintiffs who desire judgments that they are or are not infected with an aids-causing
28:16
virus however even if an examination of HIV science is destined to be scrutinized by courts of law at present
28:23
one must be realistic that in the short term the status quo is extremely unlikely to change
28:31
perhaps a disinterested Observer could be forgiven for concluding that although
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we are now well into the 18th year of the AIDS era and have spent many billions of dollars on treatments in
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research the words of Dr Peter duesberg continued to taunt Us by any measure the
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war and AIDS has been a colossal failure our leading scientists and policy makers cannot demonstrate that their efforts
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have saved a single life at least they should open up the field to people with
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other theories because their own has proven to be such a resounding failure perhaps the words of aliopolis's group
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are of even greater potent the single most important obstacle in
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finding the explanation for AIDS is the belief in HIV
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what is called AIDS is made up of 29 diseases all of which existed long
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before the eighth eras these diseases involve fungal
29:33
mycobacterial and other infection producing antibodies which could react
29:41
with the so-called HIV protein and his work dancing naked in the Minefield Dr
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Carrie malas writes years from now people will find our acceptance of the HIV theory of AIDS as silly as we find
29:56
those who excommunicated Galileo indeed it was Galileo who canceled in science
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The Authority embodied in the opinion of thousands is not worth a spark of reason
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on one man perhaps we should all pause look around and then take a long look
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back PostScript unlike many scientific Publications the
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yin and yang essay series which was published in 1999 has aged extremely
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well however there has of course been developments over the past 23 years one
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has been the claim that modern antiretroviral therapies are working well and this proves that HIV does exist
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and does cause AIDS these claims and others have been dealt with in several Publications by the
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Perth group I'll put links in the video description and encourage anyone wanting to take a deeper dive into the arguments
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to read these papers
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thank you has both sexes running stared research
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studies now project that one in five listen to me hard to believe one in five
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heterosexuals could be dead from AIDS at the end of the next three years by 1990.
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