The Incredible Growing Evidence of a Flat Earth – Has Catholic / Religious / Jesuit Deception Really Been SO Powerful ? Darker Truths Behind Malaysian Airlines “Lost” Planes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNVgzk3tbl0

Published on Apr 15, 2015
The planes can help to prove the plane…especially the planes flying from the southern hemisphere. I spent a day trying to travel from continent to continent and found out just how ridiculous the routes look on the Google map only to find the answers when mapping them on the flat earth map. Here are a few planes that help prove the plane.
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EastGhostCom 1 second ago
UN exposed as Luciferian by its own core writings youtube.com/watch?v=vQnH4waAXGc
ERIC JON PHELPS exposes Catholic anti Christ vaticanassassins.org
LOL doesn’t matter if you’re non- or anti-religious — THEY BELIEVE THEIR RELIGION AND YOU SUFFER FROM THEIR ACTIONS – EVER HEARD OF CRUSADES? INQUISITION?
Nagasaki, Hiroshima were epicenters of Christianity, not military targets. Concentration camps exist on huge pentagram-shaped geography. Dresden, first planned firestorm for literal hell on earth, was also home of Martin Luther of Protestant Reformation. Anyone who ignores the deeply occulted extremely religious aspect of war is ignorant beyond belief. War is ritual mass murder, said to feed the demonic. DOUGLAS DIETRICH videos get into this. See also the incredible work of Cort Lundahl AXIS MUNDI / GEOMANTIC INFO SYSTEMS on youtube
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EastGhostCom 1 second ago
~10:00 in — what if Atlantis is still there, between S America and Africa ? Why no flights over? There’s also a small military island, reportedly brimming with HAARP tech. in that location. VERY WEIRD STUFF YOU GUYS ARE ONTO
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
How do you know when you have struck a nerve? When real changes occur due to your actions, such as farecompare having to change their website and flight search format. Fllight 27 disappeared from all of the searches for at least three days before it reappeared today. When droves of shills come at you with silly arguments and insults to waste your time and sway the viewer on the fence, and then they share the video…ha ha ha…does that make sense? Yes, because there are networks of these scumbags, and when a video hits the mark, they spread it to all of their minions for a group style attack. Critical minds will see through all of their tactics. Investigate!
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42 See Schpankme’s post and all of the comments, he is the one that discovered the changes at farecompare. See Qantas article http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-axes-south-african-airways-alliance
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago
+rollingthunder42
I added you as one of the references on the Topic.
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
+Schpankme Verimuch Thank You, I will check that out.
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago
Link
http://ifers.boards.net/thread/3/flight-routes?page=5
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Harm10412 1 week ago
Which flight 27 are you talking about? Qantas? That’s still out there…
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rikter22 1 week ago
+rollingthunder42 you’re a schizophrenic narcissist
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited)
+rikter22
That makes me one as well, we must be doing something right.
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Harm10412 1 week ago
+Schpankme Verimuch
no, you’re just either not able to read or lack some knowledge of geography.
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rikter22 1 week ago
+Schpankme Verimuch
yes. you, too, are a schizophrenic narcissist
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago
kk thx
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
+rikter22 Smiles everyone, smiles…
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Bob Czz 1 week ago
You are absolutely right. When you put out the TRUTH the SHILLS will come out of the deep dark crevices like cockroaches to attack you. Keep up the great work 🙂
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Bob Czz 1 week ago
+rikter22 SHUT UP SHILL! You stick out like a sore thumb. Go back under that slimy, putrid smelling rock you crawled out from under to make your SHILL comments on this TRUTH video.
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rikter22 1 week ago
+Bob Czz
look. another one
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Oy vey goyim Gib shekels to isreal 1 week ago
+Bob Czz By calling someone a shill you don’t automatically win. You do know that right?
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Bob Czz 1 week ago
Sure I do. If you’re a SHILL then EVERYTHING you say is NULL and VOID.
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Oy vey goyim Gib shekels to isreal 1 week ago
+Bob Czz
So you got a fancy shilldar there? :^)
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Bob Czz 1 week ago
I can spot a piece of SHIT shill faster than the flies can
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Bob Czz 1 week ago
+Oy vey goyim Gib shekels to isreal You are a lowlife scum of the earth SHILL as well. See how fast I did that? You piece of SHIT.
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Oy vey goyim Gib shekels to isreal 1 week ago
+Bob Czz
Calm down man. I’m just a le ebin trole :^)

But yeah i wish i had a job saying that you’re retarded.
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machippy 1 week ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42 what a fucking retard and still they havent shown a picture of the underside of the FLAT EARTH
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Rob Latham 6 days ago
+rollingthunder42 How would those flights look if the south pole was in the center instead of the north pole? Just curious, I saw a video yesterday stating that Antartica was in the center of the world… idk? Very interesting stuff though, it doesn’t make sense why the planes can’t just fly straight, it makes one wonder
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rollingthunder42 6 days ago
In my opinion, that is disinfo. I looked at the plane routes on that map and they did not make sense. Cheers!
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Rob Latham 6 days ago
Yeah it could be, idk, I just keep wondering how the sun & moon work with a flat earth model: sunrise/sunset positioning during summer & winter, and phases of the moon, not to mention eclipses. I’m looking on youtube to see if anyone has explained that.
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Bob Czz 6 days ago
+Rob Latham There are plenty of YT videos that explain all your questions. The sun is like a spotlight and its NOT as far away as they tell us. Its more like somewhere around 3 thousand miles high and 25 miles in diameter. That’s why when you see the sun rays going through clouds on a cloudy day the rays are spread out at angles NOT straight down like it should be if the sun was as far away as they say.
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Bob Czz 6 days ago
+machippy They HAVEN’T showed us a picture of earth from space either.
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Bob Czz 1 day ago
There is a lot of things we can’t explain but that one flight by NO MEANS makes the earth round.
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rollingthunder42 1 month ago
King Silver, I looked at the link that you provided and I didn’t see any non stops. If someone really wants to know if they exist, they will have to book one. I am betting that they don’t…not in the time and mileage that they tell us.
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king silver 1 month ago
+rollingthunder42 go back to the link ..in the top left side you will see the word stops… press it and you will find it. thats a fact! 3 seats left…
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king silver 1 month ago
+rollingthunder42
South African
Flight 280 343
JNB – Johannesburg , ZA
PER – Perth , AU

10:00pm – 01May,Fri
01:25pm – 02May,Sat
Nonstop
Coach
South African Flight 280 343

Flight Duration : 9hr 25min
Total Trip Time : 9hr 25min

South African
Flight 281 346
PER – Perth , AU
JNB – Johannesburg , ZA

11:50pm – 11Jun,Thu
05:40am – 12Jun,Fri
Nonstop
Coach
South African Flight 281 346

Flight Duration : 11hr 50min
Total Trip Time : 11hr 50mi
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rollingthunder42 1 month ago
+king silver Ok…looks like one from Johannesburg to Perth, and two from Perth to Johannesburg. Are they real?
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king silver 1 month ago
Good question…make a call. It says 3 seats left.
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rollingthunder42 1 month ago
+king silver I don’t think that the actual mileage is only 5161 miles. If you look at the route from Johannesburg to Singapore to Perth, it is almost a straight line on the flat earth map, and that mileage is closer to 8,000 miles.
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kaseyjosh 2 weeks ago
+rollingthunder42 there are no jet streams and when they say they got a tail wind BS..and a head wind BS..they use that to alter time magically great vid!! cheers…: )
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rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago
+kaseyjosh Thanks KJ! I found your video with the boat footage, would you mind if I use some of that footage in my next video?
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kaseyjosh 2 weeks ago
+rollingthunder42 No not at all you help yourself… ; )
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rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago
+kaseyjosh Much appreciated! I will credit you and share your channel, thanks!
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Jazzaconda 2 weeks ago
+kaseyjosh Your profile pic thing, (to the left <^) of the Dash-8! I just hope that doesn't mean you have a dream of becoming a pilot! Reply &#183 kaseyjosh 2 weeks ago +Jazzaconda Too Late!!! Reply &#183 kaseyjosh 2 weeks ago +Jazzaconda And it is not a dash 8!! Reply &#183 Jazzaconda 2 weeks ago (edited) +kaseyjosh Yeah it is a, Dash-8, looks like a -2/300 model! What is it then? Reply &#183 kaseyjosh 2 weeks ago +Jazzaconda Wrong you work it out. Reply &#183 Jazzaconda 2 weeks ago +kaseyjosh I know what it is. You don't know what it is. So take a guess. You shouldn't be flying, if you can't say what aircraft it is. Its very simple, I worked it out, you're saying i'm wrong. Whats the correct anwser then? Reply &#183 1 Jazzaconda 2 weeks ago (edited) +kaseyjosh no hours on FlightSim make you a pilot! You think the earths Flat. You wouldn't get a Medical. on the grounds of being Mentally Unstable! Talk about it bro. The GermanWings guy didn't. Was he one of your many mates at 'Flight School' that knew the earth was flat. I hope not, because the Hoax. May start too make sense too everyone. If it were the case, I'm sure its not however! Show less Reply &#183 Lenny Leverhulme 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 Yes they are. It takes about 13-14 hours. Goes Sydney to Perth (stops tp pick up passengers), then on to Jo'burg. People take it all the time in both directions. That's a problem for the FE theory, imho. But I agree with you, something is definitely fishy about the flight routes you mention. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Lenny Leverhulme Here is something else that is fishy. Sometime since I made this video, farecompare has changed their website completely and also the way that you can search for flights. Also, Flight 27, Quantas non stop from SYD to SCL no longer exists in their flight search. Hmmm... Reply &#183 3 Jazzaconda 1 week ago (edited) +kaseyjosh Still waiting bro! You must be mates with that GermansWings Co-pilot? The one that....... you know the one Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) +Lenny Leverhulme Sydney - Perth - Johannesburg (STOPS) in Dubai Learn about whats going on, before you tell others that the Flat Earth you live on has problems, and your magical ball doesn't. Reply &#183 1 kaseyjosh 1 week ago +Jazzaconda Thats when, its not what you know, its what you don't know, and what you know, is not worth KNOWING!!!! Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago +Schpankme Verimuch it might help to have some actual flight numbers... Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) CX 100 .. HKG EK 413 .. DXB EY 455 .. AUH CX 162 .. HKG CX 110 .. HKG EK 415 .. DXB EK 419 .. BKK,DXB CX 138 .. HKG Show less Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago +Schpankme Verimuch ...or you could take the non-stop flight: Qantas 63 from SYD to JNB. So what's your point? Of course you'll find arbitrarily complex connections from one location to another. Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago That Qantas flight is bogus, of course you knew that before asking me for the Flight info; I do enjoy playing with my new toy. Reply &#183 Lord Steven Christ 1 week ago lmbo, it's not bogus. sad retarded flatties....hahahaha Reply &#183 1 Harm10412 1 week ago +Schpankme Verimuch Why is it bogus? Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) May 31, 2014 Qantas abandons its alliance with South African Airways, which share flights between Australia and Johannesburg. Instead, Qantas will offer flights via Dubai with its partner Emirates, which operates three daily services between Perth and Dubai with onward connections to Johannesburg, Cape Town and Durban. LSChrist, you're giving me a clue. ref: http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-axes-south-african-airways-alliance Show less Reply &#183 2 Harm10412 1 week ago +Schpankme Verimuch If you bothered to actually read the article: "Qantas says it will retain its Sydney-Johannesburg route but will no longer offer bookings on South African Airways' flight from Perth to Johannesburg." Also, there's still South African 281 from Perth to Johannesburg. So what was your point again? That Qantas has economic policies? And Perth is apparently less important to them than Sydney? Show less Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago QUOTE May 31, 2014 "Qantas abandons its alliance with South African Airways, which share flights between Australia and Johannesburg." QUOTE "Qantas will offer flights via Dubai with its partner Emirates, which operates three daily services between Perth and Dubai with onward connections to Johannesburg, Cape Town and Durban." QUOTE "This means the Dubai detour will add almost 10 hours to the trip." Show less Reply &#183 1 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) To get more 'Customer Satisfaction Surveys' you clearly need to ADD 10 hours to their Flight times. Qantas, knows how to make those difficult business decisions, that so many just won't do. Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago (edited) +Schpankme Verimuch&#8124 ok, so you don't understand economics or you don't understand the term "code share agreement". And you seem to be a rabid quote-miner. Again: there are still flights between those cities, and even more between those countries. It even says it in the very same article. One airline dialing back on one route proves what? By that logic, any change in bus routes should make streets disappear. Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) Clearly, Qantas thinks adding 10 hours and double the mileage is more profitable. It helps sell global warming to burn more JET A-1. Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago +Schpankme Verimuch ok, you really don't understand economics. Would you happen to know how many people actually took that flight? And then there are still regulators involved, quote: "'Regulators had previously indicated that an extension of the codeshare beyond December 2014 was unlikely,..." Also, again, South African still serves the route and there are a couple of other connections between Australia and South Africa. So your point is? Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) All Airlines should do what Qantas does, Double the Flight Time and the Mileage; that makes for happy, repeat customers. Someone should probably remove Qantas Flight 63, we wouldn't want anyone promoting that as fact. Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago +Schpankme Verimuch Seriously, there's one decision of an airline you don't understand and that's your evidence for a flat earth and to claim another flight of that airline is bogus? That's your line of argument? Ok... Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago Which bogus flight are you talking about? Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago +Schpankme Verimuch Your comment: "That Qantas flight is bogus,..." regarding Qantas 63... Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) Yeah, someone needs to remove that flight, since Qantas has stopped servicing that route since May 2014, and now relays on doubling the miles for it's customers, and re-routing through Dubai with another partner airline. That makes more economic sense, and people get to switch planes, get some food in the Airport, and then 10 hours later they'll be landing in Johannesburg,ZA (JNB). Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago +Schpankme Verimuch Apparently reading an article is more challenging than I thought. Quote from your article: "Qantas says it will retain its Sydney-Johannesburg route but will no longer offer bookings on South African Airways' flight from Perth to Johannesburg." You do realize that Perth is not the same city as Sydney, right? Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) Hey, don't take that Qantas Perth Flight, it always stops in Sydney, and then stops in Dubai, where you switch planes before flying another 10 hours to Johannesburg. Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago (edited) +Schpankme Verimuch You do realize that they are not even cancelling any flights, but their customers will just not be able to book the South African flight on that route? It's just about cancelling the code share agreement. So now you really have to book South African to get from Perth to Johannesburg nonstop. There was no Qantas flight, there was just a South African flight that you could book under a Qantas number. Seriously, you don't have a point. Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) Be careful, don't fly to Perth, which is on the opposite side of Australia from Sydney; Qantas will Stop in Sydney before the long haul down to Dubai, then they will have you switch planes and airlines to fly into Johannesburg. Wow, you almost flew the wrong way. Show less Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago +Schpankme Verimuch Keep blathering nonsense. Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited) Let me talk SLOWER. 1) Get on Qantas Flight in Sydney 2) fly the long-ass haul over to Dubai 3) Switch Airlines 4) Fly the long-ass haul into Johannesburg 5) get off plane Reply &#183 Harm10412 1 week ago (edited) +Schpankme Verimuch Uhm, again, there is a direct connection from SYD to JNB, so let me talk very slowly: 1) take Qantas 63 2) you're done. Reply &#183 Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago Qantas does not service Africa, it uses partner Airlines; thats the Bogus flight we've been talking about, which is only half the time and half the distance; see it's the only Flight, but there are one dozen of the LONG ASS FLIGHT stopping at Dubai. Thats where they make all their money --> doubling their Fuel bill and crew hours.
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Harm10412 1 week ago
+Schpankme Verimuch
First off, again, there is the SYD-JNB flight. Then, the flight from Perth to JNB was South African even before that. And finally, sorry, if Dubai has cheap fuel and conditions to partner with Emirates are better than with South African, then how does that make the world flat?
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago
Oh yes,
“Qantas will offer flights via Dubai with its partner Emirates, which operates three daily services between Perth and Dubai with onward connections to Johannesburg, Cape Town and Durban.”
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Harm10412 1 week ago
+Schpankme Verimuch
Reading comprehension test:
Where in that sentence does it say anything about Sydney?
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago
Thats right, you got it:
Sydney >> Dubai >> Johannesburg
Good for you, I’ll put a gold star on my monitor for you.
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Jazzaconda 1 week ago (edited)
+kaseyjosh Thats a terribly shit answer, from a so-called Pilot! (while not ansering, answers too your own questions)

You must have gone too Flight School with ‘Andreas Lubitz’ did you? (Germanwings Co-Pilot)

he changed the ‘altitude hold’ on the autopilot to 100ft, he must have thought the ‘Earth is Flat’ also.

Breaking News, ITS NOT!

‘Paranoia, was his Bitch though’!
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Harm10412 1 week ago (edited)
+Schpankme Verimuch&#8124 stop hallucinating. No where in your entire quote does it say anything about Sydney.&#65279 Again, Perth is not Sydney.
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kaseyjosh 1 week ago
+Jazzaconda Shit answer!!! Well thats all you deserve!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jazzaconda 1 week ago
+kaseyjosh Whys that? So what type of aircraft do you fly then?
You’ev been had!
You said your profile picture wasn’t a ‘dash-8-200′? So what make and model is it then?
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kaseyjosh 1 week ago
+Jazzaconda Listen …i really don’t like your type of troll!!! You are liars of the Highest Order!!! Seek/ search/destroy/b little!!! …… its called interfering with yourself.. .NOW, whys that?/ Have you ever had a good look at yourself in the mirror, and asked the dickhead looking back at you, why are you like that!!!! be honest with him…you know you don’t like him..and never to late to change!! I would say 10m a day may do it,. Now good luck with that…: ) Summing up, this is the last time i will comment to you!! …….you round earthers are Blind and extremely slow of the mark!!! Also to pre-empt your next comment …Make it 20m a day.
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
+kaseyjosh Well said, KJ! I have stopped talking to all of these scumbags…this video is shill central!
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Harm10412 1 week ago
Someone comes along, points out the obvious mistake (ok, little rude every now and then) and the response are insults. Way to go…
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago
+rollingthunder42
I like throwing out tid bits, you never know whats going to crawl out and take it.
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Harm10412 1 week ago
+Schpankme Verimuch
“tid bits” like not really understanding news articles?
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
+Schpankme Verimuch Yes, and they do too. Rock on!!
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Jazzaconda 1 week ago (edited)
+kaseyjosh Hey, dipshit. Your not a pilot. Thats all i’ve been asking you too admit too.
If you are say so. Because you’re using a trusted profession, too help your fucked belief that the earths flat!
That exactly why you’re not a pilot. Or you never would have passed your navigation exams (+IFR, you’ve got your ATPL?).
And you would have been more than happy too answer all my other questions!
But you can’t and couldn’t, because you just can’t!
I hope you don’t wish to become an (actual real) pilot!

You won’t even be able too reply too this comment. Properly? Why?

Because, I’ve presented some good points?
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Jazzaconda 1 week ago
+rollingthunder42 Whats it like? Too be so Paranoid’?
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited)
You show up on this sight where the Minority gather, and interject your Baller Paranoia. Now thats funny.

Why don’t you populate NA$A sights, pat each other on the back, and tell everyone how Awesome Warp Drives going to be ?
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kaseyjosh 1 week ago
+Jazzaconda Eat it up shithead!!!
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Schpankme Verimuch 2 weeks ago (edited)
Farecompare no longer displays the layout and flight searches as shown; they now show mileage based on Google Map distances, divided by average Aircraft Speed, they then show these as flight times and distances. When you go to book the flights you get double the time and distances. As you say, the non-stop-flights are bogus, their based on Google Maps info.

http://www.farecompare.com/#quote

Try to run the same search and tell me if you can replicate that list shown @ 2:50 of the video. Thx
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rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago
+Schpankme Verimuch Wow…it has totally changed, and I only made this video two weeks ago. I tried everything I did the last time and it is totally different now on their new site. I did have a link saved from my earlier research, and that still brought up the old search format, but the non stop from Sydney to Santiago no longer exists. Now, there are two one stop flights through NZ, which I don’t believe exist either.

http://www.farecompare.com/products/schedules/index.html

Thank you!
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Schpankme Verimuch 2 weeks ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42
Yep, and their using Google Maps to create Fake Flights; when you call to book, they become double the distance, with at least 2 or 3 stops.

Thx for the video, I’ve been meaning to write something about this on IFERS; I hadn’t put the Fake Flights together with Google Map info before watching your video.
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rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago
+Schpankme Verimuch Thanks for your comment, perhaps we found a weak spot…which would explain the heavy shill traffic that this video gets.
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Schpankme Verimuch 2 weeks ago
Of course, “you” made them change tactics.
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Schpankme Verimuch 2 weeks ago
+rollingthunder42
In your video they show the Qantas Flight (non-stop) originating out Santiago Chile; Quntas does not service Chile, you always transfer flights within North America.

FYI – Flight Routes
http://ifers.boards.net/thread/3/flight-routes?page=5
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rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago
+Schpankme Verimuch Awesome! Way to take the ball and run with it! I can tell that this video has caused a bit of a ripple because the shills are coming out in droves! I need to get to IFERS and see what is going on there. Thank You!
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42 Checkout Farecompare now, only one Flight represents one time and date, but covers all the possible stops and distances. LOL Only thing left is to take Farecompare down in a ball of flames. Guns ..Guns..Guns ..I think you got’em Captain.

http://www.farecompare.com/products/schedules/index.html
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
+Schpankme Verimuch Ha ha ha…it isn’t as much fun there as it used to be. I wonder if the other flight search companies are making the same changes? Thanks!
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
+Schpankme Verimuch FYI: Quantas flight 27 reappeared in the search today.
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Schpankme Verimuch 1 week ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42
Thats really funny considering that “Quantas” doesn’t service Santiago Chile; you must change planes within North America.

Also note that “LAN Airlines” will NOT take you to Australia or North America; they “Fly to Chile, Peru, Argentina, Colombia, Ecuador and all of South America”.

teehee
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rikter22 1 week ago
+rollingthunder42 you’re a schizophrenic narcissist
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Barco azul 1 week ago
The Earth is FLAT!!!!!
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Spheroidial Master 1 week ago
+Barco azul So does it have layers like a layer cake?
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Barco azul 2 days ago
FLAT, NO DISNEY, FLAT TRUE, DISNEY MENTIRA, COMPRENDES?
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Tim Nous 1 day ago
+Barco azul Yea, now we’re awake, folks! The earth is flat!! That is our ticket to heaven! … wooohooooo! !… burp
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Barco azul 1 day ago
NASA =DISNEY =FANTASY!!!!!
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telena helotova 2 weeks ago
water is flat ever seen h2o cling evenly to a spinning ball no less, ball ?one that spins at what speed while it travels through space at what speed while it orbits the sun at what speeed while the sun travel around the galaxy at what speed while the galaxy travels around the what at what speed. no. what makes you think it does on earth? gravity well plz try splain that with mathematical mumbo jumbo.
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jason matt 1 week ago
how are we sticking to the ground? in space water balls up to make a round shape
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Sugeng Edi Srihono 1 week ago
+jason matt
did u forgot? nasa was all fake! no water balls up make a round shape in space. all water just would coming down as rain back to the earth.

we r center of this universe!

u just didn’t read the bible right.

gezz us….
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jason matt 1 week ago
i did read the bible and i am catholic but their is no way we are the center of the universe, or that the earth is flat
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Reds Rhetoric 1 week ago
+Sugeng Edi Srihono You are a special type of retard. A retard that doesn’t know what “surface tension” is and how it forms water into a ball in a zero-G environment.
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Ben Bibik 1 week ago (edited)
+jason matt We are probably the center of the universe, but not on flat earth. You need to brush up on some geocentrism. All experiments (the real physics experiments, not the kind that rely on clever advanced math) have shown earth as stationary and at the center of the universe.
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Reds Rhetoric 1 week ago
+Ben Bibik You are right about the earth being round, but geocentrism is also pure horseshit. Just an FYI.
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Ben Bibik 1 week ago
I’m glad we agree half way. By the way, geocentrism is gaining a lot of ground in the scientific community because heliocentrism has never passed the basic tests of physics. There is not even one successful experiment that has shown that earth is moving, therefore thanks to Einstein’s theory of relativity heliocentric earth model still lives on. Einsten’s theory basically says that we can never prove whether earth is moving or not basic everything in cosmos is relative. But of course what do I know, I’m in the minority opinion, and you’re content that you hold the opinion of the majority. No use to prove anything to you. Oh, when ever you have a chance watch a movie called “The Principle” it destroys heliocentrism; a theory that is based not on one solid proof, but on assumption after assumption.
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Sugeng Edi Srihono 1 week ago
+Reds Rhetoric oh, yes, i am. a special ones and the only kind.
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telena helotova 1 week ago
+Reds Rhetoric are we in zero g? did anyone even conceive of zero g years ago? is gravity still a theory? is geoor helio stkill theories. they are still theories. as are black holers,and all that wormholes well worm holes arent theory there really are worm holes and one is crawling up . ill stopp there.surface tension is when jesus walked on it.I do it too but it must be frozen thick water.what does this have to do with this anyways you are bringing a completley artificial item into it,surface tension and your zero gh are sinot any critique of it.or how water does not curve arounfd tyyou never answered anything. just your pride in useless crap you learned inb skool.but i did ttoo and i learned to unlearn.everything you are filled with by govt institutions is either,lies,incomplete,or deleted.you will oh so learn this when you start unlearning.
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Sugeng Edi Srihono 1 week ago (edited)
so, be one of the nasa members, so. to prove scientist’s truth or lie.

why would they lie (nasa/government)? what they advantage by lying to us that the earth is round, which in the truth earth is flat?

I’m doing sarcasm, for people (flat earther) who had an idea but doing nothing to observe their idea to give their idea prove to convince other that their idea is true. but they are not even doing observation but only taking the facts which support their idea and remove the fact which nullifies their idea. they just blabbering. not even doing science.

geez us…

+telena helotova u’re doing typo almost everywhere in ur previous comment, it is hard to read and even to know what’s u’re saying.
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Reds Rhetoric 1 week ago
+telena helotova Look up Sir Isaac Newton and you will see it was conceived over 100 years ago. Gravity is a scientific theory. Let me define that for you. A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not “guesses” but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than “just a theory.” It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Get it?
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casual breakin 3 weeks ago
Sorry.. Are we confusing the routes that airlines take due to safety and cost factors for being some sort of flat earth proof?

I’m a real person.

I’ve flown directly from Argentina to new zealand in exactly the time it’s supposed to.

Bingo.

Earth not flat.
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rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago
+casual breakin Hmmm…ok Teddy, but your comment doesn’t really make sense. So flights from Australia to Chile need to go all the way up to the US or Canada for safety reasons? I have heard about the shark infested waters down under. Cost factors? Twice the mileage tends to get costly.
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casual breakin 3 weeks ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42

Cost = the amount of people wanting to make the journey, Not the distance involved.

safety… planes are only allowed to fly a certain distance away from places they can land in an emergency, (not to mention restricted no fly zones etc) only recently have twin engined planes been allowed to fly across the Atlantic non stop, when engine technology made it possible…

So some half assed Chilean airline won’t be able to fly these distances directly under aviation law.

I can’t fly directly from the uk to portland oregon, have to go by Amsterdam or philadelphia… Flat earth? Nope.. Economics…..

Easy research ftw…

P.s the Pacific is HUGE, looking at it on a flat picture doesn’t show the scale of a globe, maps remove sections of the Pacific… Fact..

If you want to make the journey,much cheaper to go via new zealand.

You can fly from south america non stop.

Mystery solved.

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rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago (edited)
Nice long comment for someone who must not have even watched the video…you have missed the part about flying to Vancouver from Sydney…that is a longer stretch over water than a straight non stop would be. Nice try 🙂
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casual breakin 3 weeks ago (edited)
And such a short comment from someone who must not have read a word I wrote.

Surely you are aware of economics? Money. The cost of services?

Even if you discount safety from your argument, the subject of money (which you avoided) wins every time.

It’s quite an old concept.

Poor effort 🙂
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rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago
+casual breakin You must have missed something also…I am not arguing with you. Watch the video, it is not talking about economics, but if it was, you would surely see how UN-economical all those flights with double mileage would be.
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casual breakin 3 weeks ago
When balanced with people actually wanting to use the routes though it makes perfect sense.

Airlines HAVE to have massive occupancy rates to make a route viable.

I’ve flown from Brazillia to wellington, it took roughly 16 hours with take off and landing.

So I’m not arguing either just pointing out what I know from experience.

As for safety. The distance from Sydney to vancouver is about the same as new zealand to Brazil, the very limit of publicaly known aircraft tech..

So when you factor in everything it’s not uneconomical at all.
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rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago
You started out by assuring me that you were a real person…I am beginning to doubt that. I find it interesting and also quite telling that a guy with only 4 subscribers and has only been making videos for a month, has been visited by a few trolls already. I hope your points get stronger, because I plan on making more videos. Happy travels!
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casual breakin 3 weeks ago
+rollingthunder42 I think you have been looking in the wrong place mate… I’ve only been on youtube since day one and posting for four years.. But anyway…

Yeah sorry about subscribers and videos, I’ve been too busy travelling the globe.

Just wanted to point out the obvious solutions to your questions.

I look forward to your badly researched future videos if I’m near a computer, all though business class on British airways has WiFi now…

I might be able to actually point out the obvious in mid air next time… Oh the irony.

Peace out.

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Diamonddavej 3 weeks ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42 I have, I’ll just check, 755 subscribers and nearly 2 million views, my channel is 9 years old. So I hope you think I’m a real person. Anyway, I am interested in this Flat Earth theory, but there’s a few questions that makes me doubt it…

I’d like to ask just one question. I have often seen Space Satellites and the International Space Station pass over head at night, they reflect sunlight (being so high up they are not in the Earth’s shadow). The appear as bight points of light, slowly passing overhead. I look up the times they are visible on an app on my phone.

What am I seeing?

This web page gives predictions for when the ISS and other satellites are visible overhead,

http://www.heavens-above.com/

You can also use an app for Android and iPhone. So you can, if you are doubtful, check my claims yourself on a clear night by observing the ISS and satellites yourself.
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rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago
+Diamonddavej Hi there, Dave…I checked out your channel before getting into a discussion with you. I noticed that you have Apollo footage in your Science and Tech playlist, which is located, ironically, right above your critical thinking playlist. Sadly, if you actually still believe the Apollo missions were real, you have not the ability to think critically, thus I don’t need to try and point out how fake the ISS footage is.
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Diamonddavej 3 weeks ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42
No I’m not talking about the footage, but actually seeing for myself from the location of my back garden at night time, the International Space Station and other Satellites fly over head using my naked eyes, they appear to be star like points of light, some are bright some dim, slowly passing overhead. As I explained, there are apps and a website that predict when they pass by. I use these apps to know when to look.

What am I seeing from my location?
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casual breakin 3 weeks ago
This should be good…..

I’m betting it’s gods tears or freemason lasers… Maybe 😉
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rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago
+casual breakin Ha! Yeah, Teddy…I have seen your comments on other flat earth videos from months ago. Is it just a hobby, or do you actually get paid to comment on flat earth videos?
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rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago
+Diamonddavej Why should I try to figure out what your eyes are seeing? I have seen that same light pass over as well. So, even though NASA lied about going to the moon, I should believe what they say this time about the ISS because you have an app on your phone that tells you when to look up from your screen? Do you get paid too, or are you really that gullible?
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casual breakin 3 weeks ago
+rollingthunder42

When you come out if your little delusion you could try looking at these mysterious things in the sky (that you obviously avoided answering the question on) you could buy a telescope or even decent binoculars and look for your self…

The question was what are we looking at…

You avoiding answering just makes you look weak and stupid.

I’d rather be paid to talk facts than talk bullshit for free like you do..

You’re going to have to do better than shill and troll comments to hide your answer avoidance or stupidity whichever it is.

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casual breakin 3 weeks ago
+rollingthunder42 +Diamonddavej yeah dave.. Didn’t you know that what you see with your eyes isn’t real?

Shame old +rollingthunder42 won’t give you an answer but just revert to shill / troll responses.

Standard when they can’t actually answer the question without ruining their little psychosis.
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Diamonddavej 3 weeks ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42 “I have seen that same light pass over as well.”

So you saw it too, what was it?
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rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago
+Diamonddavej I know you fellas must be busy commenting on other videos, so luckily you can see what a hoax the ISS is within the first minute of this video…with your own eyes even. Scuba tanks and air bubbles…in space? Have a nice day 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYX9LyxfgJ8&index=7&list=PL3OJPXFLGL7KiffvbCpcEe4P1Ps81YV2s
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casual breakin 3 weeks ago
Wow… Flat earth believer avoids answering questions with a youtube clip to another flat earther … How original.

Still the original question of what is in the sky remains unanswered..

Who’d of thought that?

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Leo Parker 2 weeks ago
+casual breakin If you look at their FE map the flight from South America to Australia should go north into Canada, Greenland and the North Pole. If they decide to compensate this by moving Australia closer to South America the distance between Africa and Australia will be perhaps 30000 miles 🙂 Absolute joke! If people don’t see it as a joke, they need to open their eyes! You can’t possibly draw a correct flat Earth map, because it doesn’t work. If it was possible someone would have done it by now. It is not, you will always get huge distortion and impossible distances.
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Diamonddavej 2 weeks ago (edited)
+Leo Parker Here are three maps I just made comparing the flight path between Dublin, Ireland and Canberra, Australia. One flight path is the shortest distance flown on a spherical Earth. It is compared with the shortest flightpath flown on a Flat Earth.

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If the Earth was a flat, and airlines did not know, planes would fly off course and run out of fuel. If the Earth was flat and airlines knew, but kept this secret from us, we would know as the flight paths they take would be very different from that expected for a spherical Earth.

Here is a map showing real flight paths of planes, they are flying on a spherical Earth.

http://openflights.org/demo/openflights-routedb-2048.png
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Leo Parker 2 weeks ago
+Diamonddavej Now you only need to make a video on this using the maps you have researched. It is absolutely clear to anyone with half a brain that you can’t fake the flights the way the FE’ers suggest. It just doesn’t work. Oh, the only way would be to drug the passengers, so they don’t notice they flew 50 hours longer. By the way, I seriously doubt they are serious. Most likely some people are just joking/trolling and like to tease the others, because they have some insatiable need to get into stupid arguments and waste their time and the time of the people they talk to. Deep inside perhaps they are well aware what the logical conclusions are, but for the sake of argument they pretend they don’t understand you.
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Harm10412 1 week ago
(Regarding original comment) I would have written a comment myself, but that summed it up pretty well. Ignore the direct connections, ignore the times, and for the last example: pick cities that fit your premise. Oh, and: ignore the economy. 😉
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Eddy Pardo 1 week ago
+casual breakin you do realize you’re trying to make sense to someone that “knows” the earth is flat right?
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Harm10412 1 week ago
+Eddy Pardo
yep, but it’s still fun…
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
Your little games will come to an end soon, you are failing miserably. Enjoy your little circle jerk while you still can, the truth is coming out!
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Harm10412 1 week ago
+rollingthunder42
Whooohooo, scary… and all that from someone whose preferred method of finding “evidence” is “that looks ‘fishy’, I’m going to ignore it” (aka cherry-picking with a lot of confirmation biase).
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
Why do you spend every day here? Some life you must have hanging around youtube so you can warn people not to listen to crazy folks. Shilly shilly shill shill shhhhhh…
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Harm10412 1 week ago
+rollingthunder42
Just got some time to spare. But hey, I guess I’m totally in on some conspiracy, right? It’s tough to choose whether not to communicate with you in order to not nurture your persecution/conspiracy complex or pointing out the rather glaring errors to warn others…
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casual breakin 1 week ago
+Eddy Pardo ha.. It’s good fun.. Mocking the mentally ill isn’t big or clever but flat earth has a whole new level of idiots…
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Bob Czz 1 week ago
Shut up SHILL! I bet your brother has Ebola as well, and your niece died at Sandy Hook, and your uncle in the twin towers. God you’re pathetic.
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casual breakin 1 week ago
You forgot one person..

Your mom
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Harm10412 1 week ago
+casual breakin isn’t it telling that people start insulting the moment someone shows them to be wrong and they run out of arguments…
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Leo Parker 1 week ago (edited)
Haha, all flat Earthers start insulting pretty soon when you don’t agree with them. Actually, the very idea the Earth is flat is an insult. It immediately suggests that pretty much all scientists, pilots, sailors as long as ordinary people on youtube are liars.
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Ride84XL 5 days ago
Or they just ban you if they run way out of arguments. I have been banned by several flat earthers so I cannot leave any comments at all on their videos…
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Bob Czz 5 days ago
+Leo Parker Shut up shill you stick out like a herpes sore on a lip.
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Bob Czz 5 days ago
+casual breakin ANOTHER SHILL comes out of the deep dark crevices like a cockroach in a infested home when the lights go out. The plane routes are such because the earth is FLAT!
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Bob Czz 5 days ago
+casual breakin Of course you personally flown on that flight. I bet your brother has Ebola as well. And your father died in the twin towers on 911, and your sister died in Nepal’s earthquake, and your niece got killed in Sandy Hook, and your cousin got killed in the Aurora shooting, and one of your best friend had his balls blown off in the Boston Bombing, and your uncle is a astronaut on the ISS, and another good friend went missing on flight MH17, and your grandfather witnessed JFK’s and MLK’s assassination, and your brother-in-law was a nutty religious fanatic and got killed in WACO TX. What am I missing from what you personally done or someone you personally knew done other than what I already specified?
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Bob Czz 5 days ago
+casual breakin Of course I am a cunt to you shills for being wise as an owl exposing the TRUTH 🙂 Not too many people are as enlightened as me. You could call me illuminated 🙂 At least I was born naturally and not scraped off the sheets with a spoon like you.
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Bob Czz 5 days ago
+casual breakin Sorry to inform you, enlightened DOESNT mean cunt. Its NO surprise that you did not know that. Because inbreeding makes you stupid and I am sure your whole family geology tree looks like a telephone pole. NOBODY scares me asswipe. Matter of fact I would be so happy to meet one of you lowlife scum of the earth shills in person.
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Ride84XL 5 days ago (edited)
+casual breakin
I think you got banned again.
Your last comments is gone. I can still see them as mails and messages, but they are not shown up in the comment section of the video it self. But “Bob Czz” comments is still there.
The flat earthers one time after another show how stupid they are – not even a good try to show any scientific explanation. They just go bananans with insults and ban people from the comment section.
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Bob Czz 5 days ago
+Ride84XL ANOTHER dumbass lowlife scum sucking shill.
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Bob Czz 3 days ago
+casual breakin You’re just a lowlife shill so NOTHING you say matters. It ONLY gives credence to the earth is FLAT for you and other shills making comments 🙂
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Glenn Webster 3 days ago
Only an uneducated child thinks the earth is only what they see! The one thing I have noticed is all you flat earthers can’t seem to grasp you are but a spec on one hell of a big globe..your limited grey matter prevents you from thinking any bigger than what you see… No real point in debating with morons!
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Bob Czz 3 days ago
Lol…it’s just shillville here. That’s when we know we are on the right track &#8122The earth is defintatly FLAT.
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Glenn Webster 3 days ago
the earth is just as flat as your head!….. children!
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Bob Czz 3 days ago
Your going to hear shill comments , because you ARE shills.
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Glenn Webster 3 days ago
stupid , stupid children!
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mrkarlhey 3 days ago
+casual breakin why do people who fly business class always need to let you know that they fly business class?
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Bob Czz 3 days ago
DON’T listen to ANYTHING casual breakin has to say he is a KNOWN paid shill.
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Glenn Webster 3 days ago
Look a ROUND the planet and you will see a ROUND earth. I’m guessing all you flat earthers get your information from a shut in stuck in Kansas..
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Bob Czz 2 days ago
Look around its a Plane T
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Drew Hahn Shared on Google+ &#183 1 week ago
Connecting the dots… REAL flight paths that DO NOT make sense–UNTIL you put it on the FLAT earth model…
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only1barbi 1 week ago
mmmmhmm
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Matt Harden 1 week ago
Explain the Coriolis effect.
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Russ Fleming 6 days ago
+Matt Harden hammer blow…good on you sir!
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rollingthunder42 5 days ago
+Russ Fleming Ha ha ha…hammer blow? Coriolis’s Effect and Foucault’s Pendulum are both proven myths. You can even have two toilets in the same house that flush opposite directions…it is the shape of the basin that determines that.
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Russ Fleming 5 days ago
I haveno doubt that the map of the earth as we know it is false. Do you believe the moon is flat as well?
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rollingthunder42 5 days ago
I don’t believe that it is globular…you can’t land on it. It is still a mystery to me at this point, but I also believe it is giving off it’s own light, not reflecting the sun’s like they tell us. Amazing that we can only see one side of it, huh?
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Russ Fleming 4 days ago
so what about google earth, your thoughts on this? do you believe that satellite imagery is all doctored as well? curious if you can explain nautical measurements that take into account the curvature of the earth? I am not trying to be an ass here, just wanna know how you explain these things. cheers.
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VESANG 4 days ago
+Matt Harden There is a video here on youtube guy from Africa demonstrates that water can go /drain / either way : counter and clock wise and also completelly straight with no rotation at all …all at the same place .
We have been told and have accepted so many lies that our brains have a hard time adjusting to reality …
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murrmac 1 day ago (edited)
+rollingthunder42 have you got a link to an authoritative debunking of Foucault’s pendulum as a myth? And also, if it is in fact a myth, how was/is the illusion created ?
I saw it demonstrated in Chicago, and I wasn’t hallucinating … I saw how it moved.
Also, it has been shown many times that the pendulum rotates in the anticlockwise (positive) direction on the southern hemisphere and in the clockwise (negative) direction on the northern hemisphere.

There is no possible explanation for this phenomenon other than the rotation of the Earth.
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rollingthunder42 1 day ago
+murrmac The Earth is not spinning…if you want to believe a pendulum in a museum knocking over dominoes is proof, good luck with that. Do your own research…
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murrmac 1 day ago
OK. let’s assume the Earth isn’t spinning, How do we account for the differing (clockwise and anti-clockwise) rotations of a Foucault pendulum in the northern and southern hemispheres?
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Ben Bibik 1 week ago
If the non-stope flights don’t exist, why don’t you just schedule one and see? You can always cancel it if you learn you couldn’t schedule it, or the flight got cancelled. Why go through this whole motion of convincing people that those flights don’t exist when you can find out for yourself?
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Grant Cottrell 17 hours ago
+Ben Bibik exactly! book and travel sydney to santiago and be done with it. either the FE theory is wrong, the FE map is wrong or these flights don’t actually exist. if the flights don’t exist THEN the FE model becomes extremely compelling.
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True Blue 1 week ago
Optical illusion?

Chris T 1 day ago
Casual breakin. Cost and safety issues? Would it not cost more to fly out of youre way than back down towards youre destination?
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Aba Zaba 1 month ago
I was looking for a better flat earth map… not easy to come by
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rollingthunder42 1 month ago
+Aba Zaba Try using azimuthal map when you search for images and you will get many. I just used the one that seems to be most accepted at this point.
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Aba Zaba 1 month ago
oh, thanks.. azimuthal? hmm 😛
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rollingthunder42 1 month ago
+Aba Zaba As a muzzle? I pondered that as well, The UN logo uses an azimuthal equidistant map. 🙂
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Aba Zaba 1 month ago
that sounds scientific 😛
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Diamonddavej 3 weeks ago (edited)
+Aba Zaba Here’s two maps I made, centred on the north and south poles.

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bruce nassar 2 weeks ago
+Aba Zaba its in the comic section
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king silver 1 month ago
not trying to cause problems, just looking for answers.
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darcysandi 4 days ago
The Bible says the earth is flat and circular and also that the earth does not rotate, the sun and moon move. Also the book of Enoch shows the path of the sun moon and stars. The Bible is God’s Word and more reliable than science or any thing else.
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Frank Busch 1 week ago
sorry –
row out to sea – north atlantic or north pacific – with a high power telescope – if you see the ice wall, well you’re not INSANE –

if not – they’re coming to take you away ho ho haha hehe hey hey.
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Brandon 1 month ago
any way to find out for sure if those couple of non stops are real? Will it let you book them, or perhaps some real people can be found that have booked them and did their flights match the claims?
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rollingthunder42 1 month ago
+Brandon I didn’t try to book anything…eventually credit cards come into play and I don’t use them. I just used my crude rookie video making skills and logic to come to those conclusions. It seems the airlines are cutting back on everything these days to stay alive…or, so they say. But, only one non stop offered, if that, and the rest take crazy routes that double the mileage and don’t make sense until you look at them on a flat earth map. I should have just mapped them on the UN logo,.. 🙂
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Brandon 1 month ago
My guess would be that either when trying to book them, they are either always full, or the travelers experience unscheduled layovers. It makes no sense to have all of those flight options, but only a single non stop, on a globe…
For me, the Gleason’s new standard map of the world is probably the most correct map of the earth available.
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rollingthunder42 1 month ago
+Brandon Agreed. Thanks, I will check that map out.
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Diamonddavej 3 weeks ago (edited)
+Brandon The Gleason’s new standard map of the world uses the Azimuthal Equidistant Projection. I make maps for a living.

My favourite map projection is World Robinson, while it is not mathematically accurate it looks very nice. There are approx. 150 different map projections.

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http://www.mapthematics.com/ProjectionsList.php

Mathematical analysis indicates that the Winkel-Tripel has the least distortion of any map projection.
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surface dweller 5 days ago (edited)
+Brandon yes they are real. ive flown nonstop from sydney (SYD) to Santiago (SCL) on QF27. i have also flown non stop from sydney (syd) to Johannesburg (JNB) QF63 which is one of the most southern routes in the world flying over the endless ice of Antarctica. Are you sure there are no flights from Johannesburg (JNB) Africa to South America? thats funny because i have also flown from Johannesburg (JNB) direct to Sao Paulo
Guarulhos International Airport(GRU) on flight SAA222, down to Santiago and home again to Sydney. The reason why a lot of flights originate from Sydney and Melbourne and not Perth is because 1) not many people live in Perth 2) most people who live in Australia live in Melbourne or Sydney.
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Brandon 5 days ago
+surface dweller Wow, guess you are just so awesome for having first hand travel experience with every single disputed non stop flight in the southern hemisphere.
Either that, or you are a liar. Maybe you should go back to the Lake Ponchatrain video and fix your post on the curvature before you look like more of a fool for substituting 8″ per mile slope for 8″ per mile curve.
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Diamonddavej 5 days ago
+Brandon there is no southern hemi-sphere <-- on a flat Earth. Don't you mean the outer ring maybe, but not sphere? Reply &#183 Brandon 5 days ago +Diamonddavej True, it's hard to not revert to the terminology that was indoctrinated into us our whole lives. I should say south of the equator. Reply &#183 1 Diamonddavej 5 days ago +Brandon No, there's no South Pole on a flat Earth. Only a North Pole. So you can't say south of the equator. You're having a hard time visualising the implications of a flat Earth. Also, the latitude / longitude coordinate system on map assumes a sphere, with the equator at 0 degrees latitude half way between both hemi-spheres, but on a flat Earth there's no equator. Reply &#183 Diamonddavej 5 days ago +Brandon distances away from the north pole would have to be measured in miles or kilometres, not angles as is currently done. An entire new coordinate system would be needed, as the current system assumes a sphere. I haven't in my professional work seen coordinate system developed for a Disk Earth. The questing is, why does our spherical coordinates work (they shouldn't if the Earth was flat). Reply &#183 Brandon 5 days ago +Diamonddavej Why wouldn't the same thing work? the lines of longitude just continue getting further apart the further south you go instead of getting closer together. Reply &#183 surface dweller 5 days ago +Brandon im in the mining industry requiring travel to Africa, South America and occasionally China. There are not that many flight options, as you put it, from down here in the Southern Hemisphere. And yes my calculus and pythagoras is a little rusty. Reply &#183 Diamonddavej 5 days ago +Brandon No, on a flat disk Earth you need longitude and distance from the center of the disk to determine position. There wouldn't be no latitude measurement, no North or South. Maps are currently made by measuring the positional angle North and South (latitude / longitude) in degree angle. An entire new coordinate system would need to be invented to navigate and map a flat Earth. The question is why does spherical mapping work, it shouldn't work on a flat Earth. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 5 days ago +surface dweller No, you are another lying shill...and a dumb one at that. Reply &#183 surface dweller 5 days ago +rollingthunder42 whatever. i travel alot, so be it. And i was incorrect with my calculations on the curvature of the Earth, your calculations were correct. 384 feet is correct. Reply &#183 Brandon 5 days ago +Diamonddavej Yes, the coordinate system does work fine on flat earth. There is still north and south and the lines of latitude are still evenly spaced and the lines of longitude get further apart as you head south, just like on your globe, only difference is they don't start getting closer together south of the equator, they continue getting further apart until you reach the end(if there is one). Reply &#183 Diamonddavej 5 days ago +Brandon I'm sorry, I firmly disagree, because lines of latitude and longitude are degree angles, but there's no north-south angles on a flat Earth. I'm confused why you seem to think angular (curved) coordinates designed for a sphere are used to navigate a disk? The most popular geographic coordinate reference system is called WGS84, it defines the sphericity and shape of the Earth. Another popular coordinate system is GRS80. These latitude longitude systems are used to navigate and map spherical Earth. A very different and incompatible coordinate system would be needed for a Disk, distance from the centre of the disk (North Pole) and longitude angles can be used to measure location on a flat Earth (not longitude latitude). I'm near 53 degrees North, 6 degrees West by the way. Show less Reply &#183 Brandon 5 days ago +Diamonddavej You are welcome to your opinion, how ever false it is. http://maps.bpl.org/zoomify?baseUrl=http://maps.bpl.org/&viewer=modern&id=06_01_008377 shows a very accurate representation of the how the earth actually appears and the coordinate system works just fine. I'm not sure either how your coordinate system defines the sphericity(is that a word?) and shape of the earth, rather the shape of the earth determines the arrangement of the coordinate system. I guess the coordinate system we have been using all along must be redesigned according to you then, as NASA says the earth isn't a sphere but pear shaped. Of course, that is false, the earth is flat and the coordinate system works just fine on flat earth. Show less Reply &#183 2 Bek Us 1 hour ago 1. why do you see the sun rays going through clouds on a cloudy day the rays are spread out at angles NOT straight down like it should be if the sun was as far away as they say? (look "Google images: sun rays clouds") 2. Why do meteoroids fall down not up? if the world was a globe then meteoroids should fall from ALL directions? Has someone, plausible arguments? Do we have some students,PhDs here with speciality in astronomy? Reply &#183 1 Peter Pan 1 day ago Earth is flat as a pancake! http://youtu.be/hiGOLO_mm5Q Reply &#183 king silver 1 month ago joha to peth. i get 3 nonstop fights. thats on trip adviser. ... anythoughts http://www.tripadvisor.ca/CheapFlights?geo=294305&pax0=a&travelers=1&cos=0&nonstop=no&airport0=JNB&nearby0=no&airport1=PER&nearby1=no&date0=20150501&time0=0024&date1=20150611&time1=0024&cr=0 1 veryinterestingguy29 3 hours ago I don't think Australia exists. This is just my opinion, but after looking at all of the evidence and the flight delays that seem to happen with every flight to Australia plus the fact the the Mojave desert has similar features to Australia. I'm not sure where Sydney is, but I doubt it's in what we've been led to believe is Australia. Only famous peope and politicians seem to go there. I'm thinking Australia is a hoax. Reply &#183 Geraldo Fonseca 3 days ago See ship (not planes) routes to and from Australia to South America. Can you explain why do they go through the south? Reply &#183 jerry martin 1 week ago why not take a compass on your next your flying.....? Reply &#183 benjamin stocks 3 days ago if the Earth is infact flat how does a compass work? Reply &#183 1 VESANG 2 days ago +benjamin stocks You still have magnetic north center of flat earth ...this is how compass work Reply &#183 1 Rui Alves Loureiro Shared on Google+ &#183 1 day ago Reply &#183 Mark Tomas Shared on Google+ &#183 2 days ago Reply &#183 GypsyKing 2 weeks ago if anybody the airlines should know the real shape and size of the earth why else would they do something does not make sense? Reply &#183 veryinterestingguy29 14 hours ago I've felt this way for a while about the map of the world. I don't believe it is the true map of the world. Especially since South America and Africa look very similar and the Mojave desert has the same features as Australia. Also check out Asia.. if my theory is correct, North America is really in Asia. Reply &#183 Dean Moffat Shared on Google+ &#183 1 week ago Reply &#183 hashtag.wakeup Shared on Google+ &#183 1 week ago Reply &#183 Steven Christ 2 weeks ago be unstupid and know earth is not flat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP7XItYVHNM 1 Max Meier Shared on Google+ &#183 1 week ago Techno Gong 2 weeks ago in the flat earth map Russia is tiny! this is a great vid and I'm getting right into this, I'm thinking ball earth is bullshit and I'm bombarding people close to me with 'flat earth thought experiments', it's great fun... but still, just looking at this again I see how small Russia is, we surely cant have land masses changing, surely the amount of land itself is not in question, or is it??? 3 Jazzaconda 2 weeks ago Great Comedy! Reply &#183 4 TheForlornDreams 1 week ago because hubs dont make any sense huh? Reply &#183 miroku vladmir 6 days ago yep,thats it,goD is real,he was there ALL the time when ppls suffer and dies.he is love. when ppls get in hell,he wont kill em too.coz goD is love Reply &#183 Elaine Marie 1 week ago Well, that is very telling, to see how flights are arranged. When I flew from San Francisco to London, a long time ago, it was what they called "a polar route." I thought it was odd that, instead of going straight across (latitude), as I'd expect, we had to fly over the north pole region. As I gazed out the airplane window, seeing the long expanse of snowy barren lands, it was a bit scary. I thought, wow, if we have any technical problems, we'd be in a lot of trouble. It seemed like flying over the Atlantic Ocean was more logical, since it was the shorter route to take. And the airplane was equipped for a water landing, if a technical failure happened. Now that you've shown the flat earth perspective, the polar route is actually the more direct path. Hmm... Show less Reply &#183 2 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Elaine Marie Thank you for your comment! Our own personal experience is a great tool to use when wrestling with this topic. I looked through my travel photos and it was staring me right in the face. The further you look into it, the harder it is to see the spinning ball. Reply &#183 1 Zach McCartney 1 week ago You do realize they use that map for reference right..? It isn't supposed to represent the Earth exactly. There are flat map projections that do that. Reply &#183 1 PENNDRAGGYNNZ Shared on Google+ &#183 2 weeks ago chris cummings 2 weeks ago Round earth tards. You think we're spinning 1000 mph yet most days there's not even a breeze! How are we on a 300,000,000 mile trip around the sun yet Polaris is in the same exact spot in the sky EVERY SINGLE Night!! And you say Gravity makes water bend! Water is always level!! That's why they call it sea level !! Your fkng stupid! Reply &#183 5 Hide replies Renzokunken 2 weeks ago +chris cummings wrong ..Polaris will stop being the North star 1000 years from now passing the name to Alrai , as Thuban from Draco constellation did 4000 years ago , astronomers are able to calculate with 99 % accuracy the facts i just told you , we are spinning at 1000 mph but the atmosphere spins with us , also the water is level on short distances , u can see it bend in the great baikal lake , also if i pick 2 distant high buildings measure the distance between them at top with a laser precision metter then go on foot an measure the distance on ground u would notice they are tilted away one from each other and not parallel . Reply &#183 3 Sugeng Edi Srihono 1 week ago (edited) +Renzokunken but u'd better do using laser precision meter with the building which is "under" u, we'd notice, the laser would never reach to the building which is on "under" according to the now "scientist believe" earth is round that prove earth is round. gezz us, this flat earth, soooo... mind blowing (blowing their mind) and so out of this world... another dimension, perhaps... they even didn't ever even doing this simple experiment, but just keep blabbering and flattering the earth is flat.... do this, and show us here a proof, that the laser reach the building/tower which is "under" according on the round earth map, then u flat earth can say earth is flat!!! gezz us!!!! Show less Reply &#183 Sugeng Edi Srihono 1 week ago +chris cummings better do using laser precision meter with the building which is "under" u, we'd notice, the laser would never reach to the building which is on "under" according to the now "scientist believe" earth is round that prove earth is round. gezz us, this flat earth, soooo... mind blowing (blowing their mind) and so out of this world... another dimension, perhaps... they even didn't ever even doing this simple experiment, but just keep blabbering and flattering the earth is flat.... do this, and show us here a proof, that the laser reach the building/tower which is "under" according on the round earth map, than u flat earth can say earth is flat!!! Show less Reply &#183 Josue Rosario (Josh) 2 weeks ago And there are a lot of relays because not many people would be flying from x point to x point,so they try to send them all to the same flights and THEN take them there. Reply &#183 alex m.e.s. Shared on Google+ &#183 1 month ago Reply &#183 GypsyKing 2 weeks ago flight 800 was a disaster is that a reference? Reply &#183 artistphilb 2 weeks ago Try using a globe instead of the Mercator map, i shouldn't have to explain why Reply &#183 2 telena helotova 1 week ago +artistphilb as i mentioned if indeed the ert is globe then a globe would be the best ideal navigation tool. do you see any navigotors using globes? ships use chartsflat charts. all navigation is based on geocentric model all of it. why do you think they do not use a globe as navigation tool. dont you think it would be thew very best ideal tool for it? Reply &#183 1 artistphilb 1 week ago +telena helotova Simple answer, you can fold a map up... also 1" to a mile maps are often used to navigate, a globe on that scale would have a circumference of 2000 feet You can fly direct from Sydney and Aukland to Santiago with Quantas, if thats the long route why is it quicker than all the routes that go via the north, dissapointed that flat Earth believers don't suport thier argument with any logic or facts? Reply &#183 Magnos Melanetic 3 weeks ago great vid. your illustrations just helped me recall something i would like to add. plz plz plz check out the route columbus took allegedly to get to the new world. it makes so much sense now. he sailed down to west africa where the spot between africa and brazil was shortest, then sailed over. plotted on your map, im sure it will indicate even he was aware of this flat earth! Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago +Magnos Melanetic Great point, thanks! I will do that. Reply &#183 my perspective 2 weeks ago thanks appreciate the work you are doing. the flight from Johannesburg stop over Mauritius is genuine and I have taken that flight a few times to Mauritius. this is some footage i took on that island https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS48aVya_NA in fact it was on that very island when viewing the ocean and sun from a high mountain that I realized for the first time that something was horribly wrong because the light and shadows indicated the sun was just above the clouds i took a while for everything to make sense as i pushed the answer that the earth is flat out of my mind as impossible. Show less Reply &#183 1 Brandon 2 weeks ago +my perspective I see the same thing with the light and clouds on sunrises and sunsets. You always see the tops of clouds illuminated instead of the bottom when the sun appears to be at the horizon. Only possible if the sun actually still above the clouds and only appears to be below due to perspective. Reply &#183 3 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +my perspective Thanks, always great hearing it from someone who has been there. I didn't doubt the flight there from Johannesburg, but since it was almost as straight as the non stop, I questioned the connection to Perth, and figured that was why there was a 20 hour layover. The island looks like a beautiful place, thanks for sharing! Reply &#183 1 William Haight 1 week ago Ride a bus. you never go directly where ya want :p All you have done is shown that the less expensive flights have more stops that pick-up and drop off passengers increasing the Airlines monetary income. Direct flights lose income. Reply &#183 1 Hide replies Harm10412 1 week ago That summed it up pretty well. And of course major airlines don't necessarily have hubs there. Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Harm10412 +William Haight Perhaps you can explain why farecompare has changed their website and flight search format. Reply &#183 rikter22 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 you think you're the reason, don't you narcissist? Reply &#183 1 Matrix Decode 2 days ago Hey Rolling! Good video and research. I see you are popular with FE trolls too. I had similar trolling issues on my Flat Earth Experiment video. Now I just ban them and list them. I think that pisses them off especially if they left a long comment. The trolls Casual Breaking and Steven Christ were on my channel too but not any more. I came here via my perspective. Keep up the good work and I look forward to more of your vids. Regards :) Reply &#183 2 Tim Nous 1 day ago (edited) +Matrix Decode Talking about trolls. The vast majority of conspiracy/new age/truther websites were made popular through internet propaganda experts and basic hype. Parrots and sheep promote absolute imbeciles and then more parrots and sheep join in, thinking they are on to a good thing. This only leads to the propaganda and hype increasing to to create the good thing feeling. There is nothing very truthful going on, however, its just fakery and bullshit in most cases. Mind you, of course, if you can save the cost of a TV licence to boot, and get to play Jack the Lad with a multi-coloured pen, then that's a good enough reason to pretend you are awake in the bullsh*t movements, and sadly most fake 'truthers' buy these things so easily. And of course, once the drones dope each other with tripe they are collectively distracted for at least five years, creating more and more deluded and programmed 'parrots' and con merchants on the way, at least until they realise they were stitched up, which most probably never will... Show less Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 day ago +Matrix Decode Thanks Matrix, yes I see the same names on many videos. I finally found the block feature and use it also, thanks! Rock on! Reply &#183 2 Ricardis D 1 week ago You have to fly all the way to Europe if you want to go from South America to Africa??? Wtf. I just did some flights on kayak... its definitely weird! Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Ricardis D Glad to see others are checking it out! Reply &#183 Jerre Geary 1 day ago (edited) Round or Flat; I am not in conflict with either side of this issue about the actual shape of the Earth. While seeking the Truth on another controversial issue years ago, I discovered the central cause that was keeping even the most earnest and dedicated seekers from the simplicity of the Answer to this question and others like it. I had to quiet my mind enough to hear what my true self was saying because my ego [The alternative identification of my understanding of self-] was continually trying to take charge and control my thoughts. Once my mind was quiet, I started hearing a wisdom which I can only explain as: the calm stillness of absolute Peace telling me from somewhere outside of self that "The Answer to my questions will be found once you change the Way you question." All my life I had processed thought through the use of my comparatives. My comparatives were made up of my experience combined with internal [The knowledge from within], and external knowledge [The knowledge from an external source]. No matter what the question was, the premise that I based all of my conclusions on came from a comparison of gathered knowledge and evidence, including the lack of evidence. So, the conclusions which were to later become my beliefs, were one form or another of a COMPARATIVE judgment. That means that the knowledge and/or beliefs that the Earth is flat is also derived from a number of comparative judgments. Whether it was the comparative judgment between the laws of physics, a biblical premise, simple logic, historical fact, the principles of perception; empirical, anecdotal, objective or subjective evidence, or historical knowledge. Comparative judgment is not the Way you will ever find the truth. You will find fact, but you never find the Truth by comparing one fact with another. The Truth is available to all who seek it, but only those who are willing to let go of the entire thought process of comparative judgment; comparing their knowledge and beliefs with the world's or someone Else's, will ever find it. Comparative judgment is the knowledge of uncertainty. Uncertainty is the reason why things like this are subject to debate. The knowledge of Absolute Certainty however, is not subject to interpretation or debate. it just IS. Show less Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 day ago +Jerre Geary Thanks for your comment, Jerre! The fake flights were a hunch, I don't think that I ever present them any other way in this video, but I do show why I have this hunch. It is what it is...I think the reaction speaks volumes as to whether this hunch was correct or not. No solid proof of it yet, but as more and more folks push this issue, the proof will show soon enough. Cheers! Reply &#183 rAdiant Jet 2 weeks ago I must say when you use the flat earth map the flights make sense compared to the "ball earth" map! I also think more people are starting to question what they see about the "ball earth". Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +rAdiant Jet Right on! Yes, it is catching fire because the spinning ball has no proof when you examine it. Reply &#183 jeff lee brown tv 1 week ago I have been on the Sydney to Santiago flight twice and it is around 13 hours. You are delusional. Check out Zhib Rhan's site to see what a more accurate flat earth map looks like. Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +jeff lee brown tvv Liar. Reply &#183 jeff lee brown tv 1 week ago (edited) +rollingthunder42 LOL, you know best rolling thunder ass..... Reply &#183 1 tcuff1333 3 weeks ago You don't fly by Alaska when your flying to America from Australia. The earth is flat but the u.n. map is wrong! If you look at far north flight times and routes like from north Canada to Russia you will see that they don't make sense on a flat UN map. They take to long when the UN map shows the continents clumped so close together. Reply &#183 1 Hide replies rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago +tcuff1333 I have found some issues with that map, those Sydney flights for one. Weird, that route really made sense to me too. Do you have a better map? I was thinking that Australia was in that general location, but maybe rotated a bit from how it looks on the UN map. Reply &#183 tcuff1333 3 weeks ago +rollingthunder42 there is a guy on YouTube search zhib rhan he shows evidence that the north pole is the ice wall and Antarctica is in the center which explains why no one flies up over the north pole. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 3 weeks ago I have seen his videos. I think I will stick with the UN logo for now... though, I do still have some questions. Thanks! Reply &#183 papollog 2 weeks ago (edited) +rollingthunder42 The earth map projection (tcuff1333) is referring to is called the Stereographic Conformal projection. It's a legitimate rendering of the earth as viewed from the "South Pole" so it's technically accurate. It's the MIRROR OPPOSITE of the Azimuthal Equidistant projection which has long been adopted as "the authorized" flat earth map by conventional flat earthers. At any rate, if you disregard this map you are inadvertently rejecting the Azimuthal Equidistant (Flat Earth/UN) map. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +papollog Zhib's map is disinfo, in my opinion, and it makes less sense than the Mercator. I don't think we have seen an accurate map yet, but the UN logo is close and it is a good attention grabber for those that are just learning about the many lies we need to unlearn Reply &#183 1 papollog 2 weeks ago (edited) Of course you are entitled to your opinion regarding Zhib and his flat earth map and I agree with your comment about us not having seen an accurate map yet. I get the idea of using the UN map as an attention grabber; after all it did grab my attention. Be that as it may, it shouldn't be portrayed as the be-all and end-all if it's not. I think we should stick to what we know, that the earth is not a sphere. Once this reality is well-known the true design of our world will eventually be revealed. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago Right on, thanks for your comments. Keep on digging... :) Reply &#183 Leo Parker 2 weeks ago +tcuff1333 Both the UN flat Earth map and Zhib's alternative map are rubbish which only show huge distortions and impossible distances. On Zhib's map the distance between Iceland and Alaska should be twice the distance between Iceland and Antarctica? How does this make sense? You can fly from Iceland to Alaska in just 7 hours which would never happen if his map were remotely valid. You can't draw a correct map of the flat Earth! Why is that? Answer yourself. I haven't seen so far even one convincing flat Earth video, and I doubt I will ever will. It seems people are just trying to fool the others for fun. Reply &#183 tcuff1333 2 weeks ago +Leo Parker zhib rhan didn't draw that map. How do you know that no one is able to draw an accurate flat earth map when nobody who has the resources and permission from the u.n. to set out and explore and go over the poles and film their findings. There is no proof the earth is a globe either until someone circles the earth from from pole to pole they can't even give an accurate location for the north and south magnetic poles. Reply &#183 1 Leo Parker 2 weeks ago Yeah, he didn't draw it. It is a projection map which is well known and even listed on the USGS website as such. When someone doesn't have a clue what they are doing they shouldn't be arrogant and pretend they do. They shouldn't shout they have the correct map when they don't and so on. If one doesn't have the resources to check for themselves or the education to understand what a map projection means, they should just shut up and not make a fool of themselves. Anyone can start questioning anything which they don't understand. How exactly hiding the shape of the planet disadvantages people? Assuming it is flat what do people lose? What would they do differently anyway? Don't you see that this is just an internet joke, and no one in the real life cares about this? Even if it were indeed flat if there were a conspiracy you would never even hear about it. Show less Reply &#183 tcuff1333 2 weeks ago +Leo Parker people who don't have clue and act like they know it all that would include everyone in government from your local police to the president. They lie about the shape of the earth to hide hidden land beyond the poles like the warm oasis admiral bird found in Antarctica also if it's proven the earth is flat the government's of the world would be held accountable for the billions of dollars they ripped off their citizens through the space program. Reply &#183 Leo Parker 2 weeks ago Admiral Byrd was an American naval officer. He was also one of the most highly decorated officers in the history of the Navy. Please be more consistent. If you don't trust the government why do you trust admiral Byrd? He didn't go to Antarctica as a private researcher, but as an officer. It was a mission approved by the US government and military. There is no conspiracy if everyone is a part of it. Maybe the conspiracy is on you that you're excluded from it, but the rest of the world knows the reality. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +Leo Parker Nobody here is claiming they have the true map...folks are asking questions here because there are a few people left that think for themselves, What difference does it make? Wow...what if all of the children of the world actually learned truth instead of lies? What if they were allowed to keep their creativity, individuality, curiosity, and critical thinking and actually hone those skills? What if they received a real education? What if all the trillions of dollars stolen by NASA and the rest of the bs brigade actually went to real research? I could go on and on...but, instead we get hoards of robots incapable of critical thought, and that is why nobody cares. We live in the Idiocracy movie...enjoy your stay on fantasy island. Reply &#183 1 Leo Parker 2 weeks ago The problem is that most people who believe in this seem to lack any critical thinking and perhaps education. Otherwise they would be able to recognize the problems with this idea. If you don't insist on the map, why do you put it everywhere as a symbol of Flat Earth? The map is bullshit, so by endorsing it as a correct depiction of the planet, you're basically spreading lies. There is nothing critical about believing in every conspiracy theory on the Internet indiscriminately. In fact, the chances are that the less educated you're the more conspiracies you would believe in uncritically. And you were talking about education. Are you suggesting that those who actually have PhD are not educated, but a bunch of kids on youtube are? Just because conspiracies exist, it doesn't mean that everything is a conspiracy. The fact is that you believe in this, because it is cool, and not because you have any logical reasons to believe it is true. Show less Reply &#183 tcuff1333 2 weeks ago +Leo Parker the rest of the world knows the reality, lol the only reality the majority of the world knows is the fake Hollywood reality who owns the mainstream media.the military of the past was more trustworthy than what we have today.admiral byrd spoke of his findings to Argentine media on his way home. upon returning to u.s.a. he was told to keep quiet and he did. Shortly after the Antarctic treaty was put in place by the UN. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago The Mercator map is wrong too, so who is spreading those lies and why? I guess you didn't watch the video either. So, what are these obvious problems to this flat earth idea that you refer to? I am looking for proof of either, it doesn't matter, but so far, Flat is shutting out the spinning sphere. Prove it is a spinning ball without showing me a fake pic from NASA or go away. Reply &#183 1 Leo Parker 2 weeks ago That is the ignorance or the manipulation, I am talking about! Anyone who is educated/can read would know that a map projection is distorted by default, because it portrays the round Earth on a flat surface. It is not a lie, as no one ever claimed that the Mercator map is anything else but a projection.You guys make the absurd assertion that the azimuthal projection is the true Earth. You obviously are trolling as there is plenty of proof on youtube and elsewhere. Furthermore, even if the Earth doesn't spin it doesn't mean it is flat, it can be round too. Have you heard of geocentrism? How about concave Earth? There are many options apart from convex Earth, not that they are more evidenced, just saying that flat Earth is not the only alternative solution. It is actually the least likely. Show less Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +Leo Parker Leo said: "Furthermore, even if the Earth doesn't spin it doesn't mean it is flat, it can be round too. Have you heard of geocentrism? How about concave Earth? There are many options apart from convex Earth, not that they are more evidenced, just saying that flat Earth is not the only alternative solution. It is actually the least likely." What happened to the spinning ball? It appears that you may be searching for answers also... Reply &#183 tcuff1333 2 weeks ago +Leo Parker ask lord Steven why no one circumnavigates the earth by way of the poles and shows proof or why no one films the entire coastline of Antarctica and he will get pissed off. He claims its possible but he can't explain why no one does it. Reply &#183 Leo Parker 2 weeks ago (edited) Haha, why no one filmed the entire coast of Greenland or even Denmark? How can you circumnavigate the Earth by way of the poles when you need to sail through dry land? Can you sail through Africa? Reply &#183 tcuff1333 2 weeks ago +Leo Parker because people live in Greenland and Denmark and are free to travel the whole country.the same can't be said about the north and south pole which are guarded by military vessels so sailing around Africa is the least concern. Reply &#183 papollog 2 weeks ago (edited) [How exactly hiding the shape of the planet disadvantages people? Assuming it is flat what do people lose? What would they do differently anyway? Don't you see that this is just an internet joke, and no one in the real life cares about this? Even if it were indeed flat if there were a conspiracy you would never even hear about it. ] Leo Parker, it seems to me that you care enough about this subject to vest so much of your time into it. Why's that? What's your motivation? You're obviously one of the educated ones you speak of. After reading your posts, I believe you even have what it takes to be a Prosecutor. So what are you doing here buddy? Why are you wasting your precious time with a "bunch of kids"? Show less Reply &#183 2 Kim Norris 1 week ago This was brilliant! Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Kim Norris Thank You! Reply &#183 Colin Pollock 1 day ago Malaysia Airlines WAS offering Cape Town to Buenos Aires direct, subsequently it got terminated, they then notoriously 'lost' two planes in fairly quick succession. I'm beginning to think those facts may not be entirely UNrelated. Reply &#183 2 rollingthunder42 1 day ago +Colin Pollock Nice comment, you may be right! Thanks! Reply &#183 Carl Hughes Shared on Google+ &#183 2 weeks ago Stumbled across the flat earth reality and before I go even deeper down the rabbit hole can anyone shed some science on the theory? The evidence for flight paths being constrained by a flat earth is very compelling... Reply &#183 1 Hide replies guy hickey 1 week ago Looking at the flat earth map of the Un flag appears more concave. Like a hill with the north pole at the top. If we're talking about perspective than why doesn't the sun or moon appear smaller on the horizon and why are they a sphere like the other planets? What actually keeps them circling and not crashing to the earth? Reply &#183 1 Carl Hughes 1 week ago +guy hickey good point and I have no idea as to the answer Reply &#183 VESANG 1 week ago +Carl Hughes There are scientific experiements / Bedford experiements/ condicted in the 1800"s proving water is FLAT in 6 miles . People here on youtube have done the same experients to find the same thing ...the water is FLAT. One person did it on some lake in Canada, 7 miles long including laser devices ... FLAT ! There are other 2 simple things everybody can check for hiself : 1. The shadow on sunset . Stay away about 10-20 feet from vertical wall . if the shadow grows taller than you on the wall that it is a globe but if it stays lower than you it is a flat earth with sun always above you . I made the experiement myself ...and as expected the shoaddow is always lower. 2. How can we see the sun at sunset when it suppose to be roughly 4000 + miles bellow horizon in order to give us the sunset edge between light and dark part. There are many other proofs but to me those are very simple and people can check for thelselves. Other things that debumg the current big bang globe model is the angle of the sun rays . They point to much closer sun. I will measure this summer the distance to the sun / it is simple trigonometry / and make a video with the results. Polaris is virtually fixed at north pole year after year . This is imposible since according to helliocentric model the earth travels around the sun and is tilted . The polaris shoud go all over the place but it does not ! There are quite a few others as well but I find those ease to communicate . All the best wishes from me to you ! Show less Reply &#183 3 Carl Hughes 1 week ago +VESANG thank you, this is really useful Reply &#183 IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 1 week ago (edited) +Carl Hughes I was a flat Earther few weeks back but now I came to realise that the concave earth model makes more sense. Research the flat model first and then check the other. There is common ground in both. For example, the Earth is stationary, the Sun is much closer and smaller and gravity is a joke. Reply &#183 Carl Hughes 1 week ago +IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 Thanks! Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Carl Hughes Carl, if you can't tell, this video has become shill central, spreading bs. Ironman is not your friend. Reply &#183 IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 Shill central? Relax man, Do you think that you have made some big discovery here? I researched that thing with the planes weeks ago. I also spent more than 10 hours tracking flights in the Southern hemisphere which conveniently disappear from the radar when they are about to cross the oceans. The reason I rejected flat earth is that it can't explain the stars rotation in the poles. Also the Rectilineator experiment showed reverse curvature of the Earth. Combined with experiments which showed that light is bending and that all the motions of the celestial bodies can be explained convice me even more. Reply &#183 IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 1 week ago +Carl Hughes You are welcomed. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago Did you make a video on that discovery? I would like to check that out. Reply &#183 IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 Why make one when there are many? Reply &#183 IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 1 week ago (edited) +rollingthunder42 And what is the problem really? The shape of the Earth or finding the truth about our world? Reply &#183 1 VESANG 1 week ago +IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 I think that we don't have to shape the earth according to what we want to be in order to explain other things we don't understand . The water is flat ! The stars issue is a separate one . I don't trust the explanation or stated as " FACT" different rotation of the stars or different star formations for the north and south hemisphere .Airplain routs debunk both globe and concave earth model . We also would have the sme problem with objects in distance ...they have to tilt but they don't . Watch here on youtube Michigan - Chicago mirage to see what I am saying. People see from distance as flat earth . We don't observe object tilts . Show less Reply &#183 IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 1 week ago +VESANG In the concave model, light is bending (experiments showed that) and from our perspective everything looks flat and the horizon is always on eye level. That can explain the tilt as well. As for the mirage, it has to do with the glass ceiling and refraction.of light. Reply &#183 VESANG 1 week ago +IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 I don't know if we are talking about the same thing ...people can see Chicago from Michigan / 60 miles distance/ perfectly straight buildings, no tilt . The same applies for far distance objects in the air or in water... it sounds illogical trying IMO to explain why objects don't tilt in distance by saying they are tilted but since the light bends they look straight ... and if light bending is the reason for objects to disappear in distance than even telescope would not help, but once telescope is used objects come back into view . It is limited human vision that makes objects disappear not light bending or earth curvature. To me the FACTS point to flat earth not concave or convex ...and again the airplane routs make no sense in concave earth just as they don't make sense in convex . Thank you for sharing your thoughts ! I realize it is quite hot subject and since we all have been programmed to receive and process information certain way it would take some time for all of us to put some order into this new reality , I should say REAL reality bcs we are all trying to figure out things now based on facts we can confirm vs blindly trusting main stream propaganda . Show less Reply &#183 Carl Hughes 1 week ago For me the big issue (assuming flat earth is our reality) is why its being hidden from us. Assuming we are in a globe, who made it? Surely some importance is placed on us as humanity going about its business in the globe. I wonder if we could experience the truth whether we would start to connect more with each other rather knowing that we are part of a grand experiment? Reply &#183 IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 1 week ago (edited) +VESANG Because light is bending doesn't mean that the perspective effect can't happen. From our perspective light is always straight but in reality is bent. We can't see that. Maybe God hide it in that way. Bending light is a difficult concept and needs some time to understand it. I agree about the planes routes. Shouldn't happen and I have no explanation for that. But the stars rotation are equally difficult to explain in the flat model and then there is the Rectilineator experiment which is very intriguing and thought provoking. One thing's for sure, heliocentrism is a lie and nasa just a mediocre sci-fi company. People have started to wake up and that's the crux of the matter. It was nice chatting with you, peace!!! Show less Reply &#183 IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 1 week ago +Carl Hughes In short, to make usbelieve that we are just an insignificant tiny little thing in the vast universe where God doesn't exist and we just got here by chance. Reply &#183 2 VESANG 1 week ago +Carl Hughes God vs NO God universe ! Thats the whole issue my brother ! Reply &#183 1 VESANG 1 week ago +IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 I see the star rotation Q for flat earth ...but again we are to start from scratch ! I don't trust the main stream information about stars period...it is harder one to research bcs I can't be on both sides of the globe to make the observations . I suspect though a LOT of factual misinformation about that subject coming from main stream propaganda For instance ,they are trying to prove globe by stating that the moon flips vertically / which should impossible in flat earth according to them /...but when we add distance and perspective what they call up may be just front and what they call down just rear side of the moon ...when they say stars rotate certain way ...what happens on the equator and close by places ? Could it be just right to left or from left to right depending on the person orientation...could it be we all observe the same star formations but from a different perspective I just don't trust " FACTS" coming from main stream propaganda anymore... this is where we are to start IMO . Trust things that we can actually confirm with simple experiments . There is nothing more powerful when we do those ourselves and share the results with others. I agree with you " One thing's for sure, heliocentric is a lie and nasa just a mediocre sci-fi company...." The big bang universe is in the trash can forever at this point ! Show less Reply &#183 2 EastGhostCom 1 second ago +VESANG BIG BANG was decried in popular press at its time of introduction as "another Jesuit conspiracy". Vatican has a telescope in AZ called LUCIFER. CLUES EVERYWHERE. see ERIC JON PHELPS. Why was Catholicism banned in USA for hundreds of years, punishable by death? Reply &#183 1 EastGhostCom 1 second ago +VESANG mainsteam anything is tribally controlled -- thezog.wordpress.com -- and see what happened last time http://darkmoon.me Reply &#183 EastGhostCom 1 second ago +VESANG earth globes in preschool, even before kids learn to speak they learn the deception -- won't matter soon anyway, per stopthecrime.net and geoengineeringwatch.org, since chemtrails will kill all Reply &#183 EastGhostCom 1 second ago +IrOnM&#-1299©N1789 Newton's gravity law has TWO cases -- one is the solid sphere, the OTHER is HOLLOW sphere. Reply &#183 71OtherOne 1 week ago Great vid man....please don't start talking about an edge or a encapsulating dome though..Lol. I lose faith in those "types" of flat earthers, ya know like the king of flat earth disinformation : Mark Sargent Reply &#183 2 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +71OtherOne Thank You! I have no agenda, just looking for the truth. Reply &#183 1 maddogjb57 2 weeks ago They are using a little distorted map the UN. We have a more accurate map but can't post the image here. Reply &#183 Hide replies rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +maddogjb57 Can you give us a hint as to where we might find one? Reply &#183 maddogjb57 2 weeks ago We have put the map together from 100's of old and new map references. You can join us at Biblical Astronomy @ google+ . If you can't find it send me your email then. Thanks, Mike Reply &#183 maddogjb57 2 weeks ago If your interested to join our google+ Biblical Astronomy I will send you a invite. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +maddogjb57 Thanks! Reply &#183 maddogjb57 2 weeks ago Did you join? Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +maddogjb57 No, I don't join groups, but I am interested in exposing this lie and finding a good map. Reply &#183 K-THORNZ &#8226&#8226&#8226 (Keith Thorning) 1 week ago NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO NOT EXIST...... Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +K-THORNZ &#8226&#8226&#8226 Agreed. Reply &#183 Ashley Awbrey 1 day ago Okay but as for the UN flag and emblem, its just the globe looking down from the North Pole... otherwise, how would they show the whole world? Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 8 hours ago +Ashley Awbrey What about Antarctica? Reply &#183 EastGhostCom 1 second ago +Ashley Awbrey UN exposed as Luciferian by its own core writings -- youtube.com/watch?v=vQnH4waAXGc Doesn't matter if YOU don't believe -- THEY BELIEVE, YOU SUFFER - Heard of Crusades? Inquisition? Dark Ages? Reply &#183 1 darcysandi 4 days ago what movie is that scene from at the beginning? Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 4 days ago +darcysandi "THE WEST WING S02E16 Somebody's Going To Emergency, Somebody's Going To Jail - Season 2 - Episode 16 Reply &#183 1 darcysandi 4 days ago Thanks! Reply &#183 * Learn of the Jesuit order 1 month ago It's great to see real investigative work being done. If everyone did this, we'd learn so much. You investigate, and you provide the public with any evidence that you think you need to share. Our global controllers want us to be dumb slaves that don't question anything. Reply &#183 5 rollingthunder42 1 month ago +* Learn of the Jesuit order Thank You! Now, if we can just get folks to get past their cognitive dissonance, take a look, and use some critical thinking. You are doing great work also, as I see your NASA videos everywhere! I am working on a drawing that you may like...it is an astronaut with the flat earth reflection in the visor...also, a few air bubbles rising up into the vacuum of space. I will have it finished today or tomorrow. Reply &#183 1 Smedley Butler 3 weeks ago lol great intro Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +Smedley Butler Welcome to Fantasy Island :) Reply &#183 Annette David Icke is RIGHT! 2 weeks ago That little island that you called Mareetus or something like that is name is pronounced Marishus and it's a huge holiday destination especially for weddings. It does exist my sister lived there for 5 years and saysvits paradise. Reply &#183 2 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +Annette David Icke is RIGHT! I had a feeling I wasn't pronouncing it correctly...thanks! It was the flight that was in question of existence, not the island. Reply &#183 Annette David Icke is RIGHT! 2 weeks ago Anytime, sorry for typos I am on heavy medication lol Reply &#183 EastGhostCom 1 second ago +Annette David Icke is RIGHT! it's also sinking into the sea, LOL Reply &#183 Ned Bass 1 week ago Your proof is that you don't think the flights don't exist? They obviously do. You make no sense... Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Ned Bass Well, it was a hunch, not proof. Why did farecompare change their website and flight search format? That is where the proof starts to show. Qantas says that "customers who choose to travel on Emirates operated services to Johannesburg will have a connection time in Dubai of 1 hour and 40 minutes", after which there's another eight hours in the air. This means the Dubai detour will add almost 10 hours to the trip. Then, there is the daily shill presence on this video, not solid proof, but definite signs that my hunches were correct. Reply &#183 Young Master Gandalf 1 week ago Why don't you book a flight on one of the flights you think don't exist? If they are not real, it costs you nothing. Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Young Master Gandalf Look at Schpankme's post, he did just that. You might find it interesting that farecompare just changed their website and the way you can search flights, and I only made this video a few weeks ago. Hmmmm... Reply &#183 Spheroidial Master 1 week ago So, RT42, I applaud you for at least allowing contrary comments for this video. You are braver than some of the cowards such as Jimmy Henning, who blocks any questioning of his "work". I would like to sincerely ask how you came about this particularly strange belief? Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Spheroidial Master You are probably the only polite shill of the bunch, so I applaud you for that. I left the comments because those folks that are curious enough to look into the flat Earth, can clearly see what is going on here in the comment section. The sad thing about letting you all run amok, is that folks that might want to ask a real question or add to the discussion, would rather not, because of your attack tactics. But, ultimately...it is so very telling!!! I had never even made a video until a month ago, so how did this video manage to find 11,000 people and piss them off so much? Why did farecompare change the search format and website? Why are so many shills camping out and sharing this video? Why are you guys so angry? Why is there an insult in every comment from you guys? INTUITION! Thanks for really confirming it all for me NASA! Those flights are fake, the Earth is flat, and it will be exposed soon. Show less Reply &#183 1 Spheroidial Master 1 week ago (edited) So I watched thru 4:24 When you say "I don't think theses two flights are real". What you think or suppose is not evidence for anything. If you could PROVE the two flights don't exist then sane people might listen to you. Conversely, if the evidence for the two flights is demonstrated would you be willing to reconsider your fanciful ramblings? I highly doubt it. You would likely just dismiss it without examination. How sad. Reply &#183 Hide replies rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Spheroidial Master Well, it was a hunch, not proof. Why did farecompare change their website and flight search format? That is where the proof starts to show. Qantas says that "customers who choose to travel on Emirates operated services to Johannesburg will have a connection time in Dubai of 1 hour and 40 minutes", after which there's another eight hours in the air. This means the Dubai detour will add almost 10 hours to the trip. Then, there is the daily shill presence on this video, not solid proof, but definite signs that my hunches were correct. Reply &#183 Spheroidial Master 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 So what does "daily shill presence" mean? Seriously. Every major airline in the world would have to be in on the conspiracy if the flat earth hypothesis were true. Why would countries with values antithetical to the west such as North Korea and Iran accept the standard model of the globe? Present some REAL evidence. Do you even know about the experiment Eratosthenes performed over 2000 years ago? Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Spheroidial Master How do you think a lie like this can last for 500 years? Of course every major airline is in on it, and that is why guys with names like spheroidial master show up here every day to spew their venom.You may have just showed up a few days ago, but your buddies have been here for weeks. It's only a matter of time now...can you sense it? This lie and many others will be exposed soon. Reply &#183 Spheroidial Master 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 Well, I just posted my first video (really a slide show) Mar 29. It talks about all the information anyone can find published for things like phases of the Moon and eclipses that the Standard astronomical model gets RIGHT every time. I have yet to see one video that shows something the Standard Model gets wrong. Where are the Flat Earth predictions and the descriptions of the laws of physics required to maintain the consistency we can see? I can set my telescope to point at a star or planet, but to track that planet for several minutes or hours during an evening observation session, I need to align the POLAR AXIS to due north and then run the motor which rotates once per sidereal day. You can call me or anyone else who disagrees with you a "shill" but how does that advance the conversation? Let's talk facts and observations. Show less Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Spheroidial Master I watched your video, even to the end where you assure everyone that the photos from NASA are real. Why would you want to fight on the wrong team? What makes someone want to be a shill? You seem like a nice person, so I genuinely would like to know. I don't get it... Reply &#183 Spheroidial Master 6 days ago +rollingthunder42 I'll try to answer that. I consider myself an exceptionally skeptical person. Truly skeptical people not only challenge the beliefs of others, but their own beliefs. To examine any set of beliefs, one must choose a method of analysis that is capable of distinguishing valid descriptions of the real world from unsupported assertions and unsubstatiated claims. I have accepted the scientific method as my foremost tool because, in its idealized version, it is the most rigorous, consistent, reasonable way to grasp the sensory input my brain has to deal with every day. Good science depends on careful, measured observations, consistent data oganization, development of testable hypotheses, and repeatable experimentation, that leads to rejection of unsustained conjectures. Most importantly the process of science has been able to develop theories that give a generalized explantion for a whole range of verified hypotheses and groups of facts that may appear at first glance to be unrelated. Finally the theories, and the supporting math behind them MUST be able to be put to the test, they must make predictions about what we can expect to find over the next hill or across a continent; over the next day or the course of a century. Consistently, if not perfectly, and preferably with reference to laws of nature that can be expected to apply universally. So my video answers your question and I am equally unclear why, after viewing it, you would need to ask. The Heliocentric Model of the Solar System, based on verified theories such as the Law of Universal Gravitation an Newton's three laws of motion, clearly makes valid predictions for everything I can verify on my own, and the supporting math is fully available and verifiable in Astronomy and Physics books in every Academic library on earth. Yet I look to see If I might have missed something. I checked out jhenningkelloggia, eric dubay, mark sargent, you and others. To put it bluntly, you all aren't doing science, you aren't presenting usable data, and you certainly haven't come close to reaching a threshold of making useful predictions. The fact that some website changed its search format is so banal it can be dismissed without further thought. Consider why seasons are reversed in the Southern hemisphere instead. Then maybe a rational discussion can occur. Show less Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 6 days ago You never said why you wanted to become a shill...that is what I really wanted to know. Use your science to show me how a 24 mile bridge across a lake would only need to add two inches of road to compensate for the 384 ft of curvature that they should encounter. Reply &#183 Spheroidial Master 5 days ago (edited) +rollingthunder42 Can you be more specific, please what bridge, and where? You seem to have the preconceived notion in your head that there is this linear flatness. If you change that perspective even as just a thought experiment to a spherical one with everything falling or hanging pointed towards the CENTER, you might begin to see there is no difficulty and no "compensation" required. All parts of the bridge are equally distant from the center of the earth. (except that there are so many other factors that go into designing a major civil engineering project such as this, we would need to be extremely careful in our analysis.)...And what about MY question about the seasons? And what would a year even MEAN in a flat earth scenario? Show less Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 3 days ago +Spheroidial Master https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xv9y8ni2vQ Reply &#183 Spheroidial Master 1 week ago But, BUT - we learned (in my school at least) about Mercator projections and why they are distorted. You do understand that the West Wing clip SUPPORTS a global view of the world, RIGHT? Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Spheroidial Master That was the entertainment portion of the video...the meat comes when we talk about the fake flights. Reply &#183 1 EastGhostCom 1 second ago +Spheroidial Master it's not a "global view" . it is a Zionic view -- thezog.wordpress.com shows the tribe in control, names names, all from public sources. finally, someone put together proof. Reply &#183 1 Dilly Gill 1 day ago okay the first one I did, bunos aries (Argentina) to cape town. shortest flight time 18hrs 50 mins with two stops (16hrs actual flight time), No one stop available. NO direct available anywhere. I had google maps up on another screen the distance measured was 24.5 cms straight across. Up in the northern hemisphere aprox the same distance 24.5cm translates NYC to LHR, flight time 8hs direct. Now they might argue that there is not sufficient business for a flight from EZE to CPT however I bet if you put a direct flight on once per month it would book up easy. Reply &#183 2 rollingthunder42 1 day ago +Dilly Gill Glad to see others checking it out! Right on! Reply &#183 Werner von Braun 1 week ago (edited) Then how when you fly from Singapore to Buenos Aires, you fly via Auckland in New Zealand. On a globe that makes sense. But on your flat earth map its ridiculous, as the distance is much shorter if one would fly over Europe to the top of South America over the continent?? Reply &#183 Hide replies rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Werner von Braun Nice name...just another nazi nasa shill...zzzzzz. Reply &#183 Werner von Braun 1 week ago so you have no answer? then why are you giving out false information to confuse the public more? Reply &#183 orange70383 5 days ago +Werner von Braun basically Reply &#183 1 radgo333 1 week ago (edited) if the earth is flat, how come there's daytime in europe and night time in america, at the same time ? just saying...shouldn't it be daytime OR night time all over the earth ? Reply &#183 View reply Pieter Stougje 4 days ago 12637 views now! Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 4 days ago +Pieter Stougje 13,582 now...it was stuck on 12637 for two or three days. Reply &#183 1 Requiem4aDr3Am 1 month ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myBcAUAtF34 also http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/Antarctica/What-To-Expect RIP flat earth. We live on a round earth the evidence don't lie Reply &#183 1 Hide replies rollingthunder42 1 month ago +Requiem4aDr3Am Ha ha ha...supposedly, the flat earth died about 500 years ago, but it seems she may be coming back to life. Enjoy your trip to fantasy island. Reply &#183 4 Requiem4aDr3Am 1 month ago +rollingthunder42 flat earth never existed. The earth has always been and is round. The scientific proof don't lie, but flat earthers sure do Reply &#183 1 king silver 1 month ago +Requiem4aDr3Am your joking right? Reply &#183 1 papollog 2 weeks ago +Requiem4aDr3Am Those QANTAS flights never go far beyond the coastline, they never fly "over" Antarctica in the implied sense. See a typical flight path for yourself: http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/Gallery Reply &#183 Requiem4aDr3Am 2 weeks ago +papollog Every flightpath is different. I've been on one of those flights as well mostly over the east. I've also been on one of the cruises they are worth the high price. You should pony up the cash and see for yourself. Reply &#183 papollog 2 weeks ago (edited) +Requiem4aDr3Am I find it interesting that the majority of dedicated flat earth scoffers are very well travelled and have an endless list of firsthand travel experiences to draw upon. Reply &#183 Requiem4aDr3Am 2 weeks ago +papollog I don't know why lots of people travel. That antarctica tours cruise and the flight are totally worth the cash the sights are extraordinary. Reply &#183 rikter22 1 week ago +Requiem4aDr3Am i love you Reply &#183 artistphilb 2 weeks ago Get off your computer and catch a flight to the southern hemisphere.... fly from sydney to Santiago, be more fun than wondering? Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +artistphilb No, that would not be more fun, seeing as I would get down to Sydney to try and hop over to Santiago and realize that I was being sent all the way back to the US or even farther NORTH to get to the SOUTHERN part of South America. It doesn't work on a round earth map, but it does on a flat one. Why don't you use your computer to learn something. Reply &#183 LittleBrotherIsWatchingToo 1 week ago Because the Earth is so big, proportionate to our size, we get the illusion that it's flat, as the curvature is so minimal, but I'm sure that you've seen a big ship disappear into the horizon on the ocean or a big lake, and it's because of that curvature, otherwise you would continue to see it forever, as long as the air was clear and the object big enough. When you see a large ship disappear, you will see the bottom of the ship disappearing first, until eventually, all you can see is the stacks and even those disappear as it gets far enough away. If the Earth was flat, you would be able to see it for hundreds of miles and it would get small like a dot. That is 100% proof, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that there is a curvature on the water, and there's only one way to explain that, by the Earth being round. Of course there are thousands of ways of proving that the Earth is round, but most traveled people have seen what I'm talking about, even those who mostly stay home, but they invariably go to some beach one day and see one of those big ships disappear, and then they have their proof. On a similar note, when you buy a flare gun, it is usually rated for 21 miles distance. That is to say that it can shoot high enough in the air, that a person at seal level who is 21 miles away, should still be able to see it, despite the Earth's curvature. Another point of interest is that when you sail towards land, you'll first see the mountain tops, then more and more of the lower portions as you get closer. As you get quite close, let's say a few miles away, you'll see tree tops, but not the land itself, until you get closer. We have amazing telescopes that can see into other galaxies. If you stood on a Caribbean beach with one of those telescopes, you'd be able to see Cuba & Florida, in fact, if you got it pointed in the right direction, you'd be able to see New York City and all the skyscrapers, etc. You'd actually be able to see people walking around. When you're out to sea and can't see land, it's not for shortness of vision. Proof of that is that you can see the moon, the sun and the stars that are millions, billions or trillions of miles away. The only reason you can't see land is because of the curvature. In the old movies of sailors in big wooden ships crossing the oceans, there was always a lookout at the highest point of the ship, to allow someone to go up there and spot another vessel, before it spotted you. The fellow in the lookout might get a 5 or 10 minute advantage over his enemy, for seeing him before they see him, assuming they don't have someone up the mast on their own ship. The higher the mast, the farther you can see. Show less Reply &#183 Hide replies rollingthunder42 1 week ago +LittleBrotherIsWatchingToo Funny you should mention the disappearing ship...tune in for my next video when we crush that myth too. A friend filmed a ship for over 3 hours...guess what? Reply &#183 LittleBrotherIsWatchingToo 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 I have filmed ships too, so there are no surprises for me. I have made many oceanic crossings, so don't expect to surprise me with any of your mythical stories that would prove the Earth is flat. You're not just talking to someone with a brain, you are talking to someone who has gone around this planet, a very round planet I might add, and I have experienced the results of the Earth's curvature countless times. It's such common knowledge for sea fairing individuals, that the arguments you flat cultists come up with are literally hilarious to us, like a comedy show of Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +LittleBrotherIsWatchingToo You can go around the world on a flat earth. You are probably familiar with plane sailing, right? Navigation without reference to the earth's curvature . Amazing how that works. Reply &#183 LittleBrotherIsWatchingToo 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 I suppose you mean Earth, and not the world, and if that is the case, the Earth I live on has a continent called Antarctica and we can fly over it. Try doing that on your flat Earth map. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago Just another shill...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Reply &#183 LittleBrotherIsWatchingToo 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 That's the best answer you could come up with? Try facing reality and give us some evidence that the Earth is flat. Reply &#183 rikter22 1 week ago +LittleBrotherIsWatchingToo you wrecked his narcissist face off Reply &#183 telena helotova 1 week ago +LittleBrotherIsWatchingToo in fact sea captains often wonder against what you jsut said, if you have traveled a circular earth then you should have used the circular globe for navigatuion it is reasy to make one. you just print out a bunch of charets and paste them onto a ball and there you have the tool for your navigation. sailors dont hanfg out and talk shit like this in comments on you tube, they are too busy running after gondongs ..but i got so many nice and interesting replies i am drawn back here never to return.and what were the results of the curvature you have experienced countless times, do you know what countless means ? it means zero no count. Reply &#183 LittleBrotherIsWatchingToo 1 week ago +telena helotova You need a new dictionary. Countless means "Too many to count; innumerable or incalculable", and what the heck are gondongs? May I suggest never posting comments unless you are fully sober. BTW: I'm guessing that "charets" is your version of the word "charts", correct? Please proofread before hitting "Post comment", so that the rest of the world can understand what you're saying. Reply &#183 Sherbeck2009 1 week ago Hi Could you please tell me the name of the movie starting at 0.34. Thanks Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Sherbeck2009 "THE WEST WING S02E16 Somebody's Going To Emergency, Somebody's Going To Jail - Season 2 - Episode 16" Reply &#183 1 Sherbeck2009 1 week ago Thanks Reply &#183 EastGhostCom 1 second ago +rollingthunder42 THEY show you, it's right out in the open. thezog.wordpress.com Reply &#183 1 J_Viking32 1 week ago Did you ever stop and think ur picking very small cities that even if the earth was flat wouldn't have direct flights? How many people actually take those flights? It's far cheaper for airlines to fly everyone to big cities and split them off from there. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +J_Viking32 Let's see...Sydney is the largest city in Australia at 5 million and Perth is the fastest growing city at 2 million, Johannesburg and Capetown are the two largest cities in South Africa at 8 million and 4 million, and Buenos Aires is a huge city, 13 million. Which ones should I have picked? I did the tests with many cities, I just mapped out a few of them. Reply &#183 1 Grifflaw 2 weeks ago "da planes" speak English for fucks sake. I do like the information here but that pidgeon English is embarrassing Reply &#183 Hide replies AudioDiversity 2 weeks ago +Grifflaw meh dont ya concern yaself wit da petty shit family Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago +Grifflaw Perhaps you have never seen Fantasy Island...it was just a play on Tattoo's da plane!! Reply &#183 1 AudioDiversity 2 weeks ago +rollingthunder42 hey family dats a badass profile pic, that doesn't try to be badass! no sarcasm in my diet! Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 2 weeks ago Thank you...that's just how I roll...he he he. I like yours also, rock on! Reply &#183 1 Bob Anderson 1 week ago Check this out music fans..... Jimi Hendrix FAKED his death and became Morgan Freeman...... Google this for your proof..... Wellaware1. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +Bob Anderson Ha ha ha...Dallas Goldbug even found this video? Ha ha ha... Reply &#183 EastGhostCom 1 second ago +Bob Anderson Zbigniew Brzezinski - exopolitician extraordinaire - wrote that robotoids (cyborgs) would come into being soon, presumably as actors, figureheads, etc. -- who can argue against ANDERSON COOPER = MAX HEADROOM ?? Reply &#183 1 elizabeth moscone 1 week ago I can not believe in this day and age there are people who think the earth is flat. We have satellites all over the place that show what the earth looks like. Hello! Reply &#183 Hide replies rollingthunder42 1 week ago +elizabeth moscone I can not believe that we could actually be kept in the dark for 500 years. This lie crushes many of the other biggies also...do some investigating. Hi! Reply &#183 1 elizabeth moscone 1 week ago Prove that it's flat. This is 2015. My partner is a scientist and worked for NASA I think he knows a little about it.. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +elizabeth moscone Yes, trust NASA. You probably believe that the Apollo missions were real. Prove to me that it is round...since it is 2015 and you have a buddy from NASA, that should be easy, right? Ask your friend for a real photo, not a fake one. There are plenty of videos and other resources that prove it is flat, go have a look. Reply &#183 1 elizabeth moscone 1 week ago Well he thinks people are silly for thinking it's flat. There are tons of pictures from satellites. They look real to me. I i have not seen one flat picture of earth. Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago Good luck with that...I hope your friend can find another job when NASA goes away. Reply &#183 elizabeth moscone 1 week ago Lol, he doesn't work for them now. Oh well no different then me believing there are shape shifting reptilians. Who knows you might be be right. But why would they say it's round if it's flat what is there to gain by it? Reply &#183 71OtherOne 1 week ago +elizabeth moscone more land?? I couldn't believe it either when I found out NASA is a fraud. So much evidence, check it out some time Reply &#183 1 elizabeth moscone 1 week ago I am watching more footage on flat earth, also yes they are claiming the land is way bigger then they told us. Why do they have to lie? Reply &#183 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +elizabeth moscone I am impressed that you are looking into it! I think these lies are meant to control us and keep us feeling small and insignificant. More land is intriguing also. Cheers! Reply &#183 Reds Rhetoric 1 week ago +rollingthunder42 It's the greatest cop-out for a flat earth believer, isn't it? Just claim that every video, picture, and launch is all the work of CGI. You know, like what they had back in 1969! Back when they had less computing power than your fucking cell phone. It's ok, its not like CGI NEEDS computing power to put those special effects on the screen. I would not worry over the fact the computers at the time could not do the shit you claim they could. What the the "C" in "CGI" stand for again? We can also ignore the fact that people saw that big rocket launch in real life. You know, just like I have seen the shuttle Launch in real life, along with Orion, Falcon, and Atlas. The sonic boom I hear must also be CGI, right? Show less Reply &#183 elizabeth moscone 1 week ago God what is there really for truth any more? I watched other videos on the flat earth and ya know what NASA says the picture of round earth is a fake pic WTF? Oh and the video with the women and their hair all sprayed to look like its anti gravity! You can tell their hair is sprayed. Maybe the earth is flat nothing is a surprise to me any more. Why are we letting a hand full of people run our lives please we need to come together as one race and put all color aside if we are going to take our planet back weather it is flat or round our children and animals need a good place to live. Reply &#183 1 rollingthunder42 1 week ago +elizabeth moscone It seems that many lies are being exposed right now, and some big ones at that. Perhaps that is what they want, bombarding the masses with paradigm changing truths all at once to leave them confused and overwhelmed. You have officially opened the door to the rabbit hole, best wishes! Reply &#183 1 elizabeth moscone 1 week ago Thank you! I agree! Reply &#183 1 zokonjazokonja 1 week ago Let me try to solve this mystery, I will focus only on this flight route from Sydney - Santiago. It is very big probability that number of passengers between this 2 locations is quite small, so it is not justify to have daily flight between these 2 locations. However both of that 2 locations (Sydney, Santiago) have much frequent flight with some points of North America because number of passengers to N. America and backward is much bigger. So here you go, If you can't wait 3 days for direct flight from Sydney to Santiago you can use existing more frequent routes and spend more time in the air and waiting connection flight. What is interesting, ticket price will not be probably higher or too much higher than direct flight, because ticket price depends on more factors, not only mileage. Let me show you one even more interesting route, few months ago I searched for flight from Zagreb (Croatia , where I live) to London. You have normal direct flights, but you can also fly with connection flights, for instance with Turkish Airlines you can fly Zagreb => Istanbul => London. Price is almost similar. Now check a map, Zagreb – London is approx 1300 km, Zagreb – Istanbul – London is 3700 km.
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
+zokonjazokonja Let’s see…Sydney is the largest city in Australia at 5 million and Perth is the fastest growing city at 2 million, Johannesburg and Capetown are the two largest cities in South Africa at 8 million and 4 million, and Buenos Aires is a huge city, 13 million. Which ones should I have picked? I did the tests with many cities, I just mapped out a few of them.
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zokonjazokonja 1 week ago
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This does not mean nothing. Important is how many passengers (i.e. per week) travels between this interested end destinations, If you can’t have at least 70% (my guess) full airplane between 2 locations than it is not profitable, at least for daily direct lines. For such distances it is wise to use wide body jets which usually have 250 – 300 seats.
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rollingthunder42 1 week ago
+zokonjazokonja Zzzzzzokie dokie…
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